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    Fake news. Zero 2007 Select kids doing OFP.
    What’s that tell you?

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Fake news. Zero 2007 Select kids doing OFP.
      What’s that tell you?
      What's that tell me?

      That zero 2007 select kids are doing the Office Football Pool.

      How about ODP?

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        How about ODP?[/QUOTE]

        LL doesn’t even want her own players doing it.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          How about ODP?
          LL doesn’t even want her own players doing it.[/QUOTE]

          Talk about fake news!

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            There are Select girls in the other age groups, just not 07.

            Overall the training seems very good and its a nice change from normal club training with the focus on the player development, not the team.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              There are Select girls in the other age groups, just not 07.

              Overall the training seems very good and its a nice change from normal club training with the focus on the player development, not the team.
              What club is (too?) focused on team development vs. individual development?

              Run from them.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                What club is (too?) focused on team development vs. individual development?

                Run from them.
                The only reason ODP parents keep saying it’s good for player development is because they don’t know what they’re talking about and there are no games. The coaches had them a line about “player development” and they swallow it. Their little superstar comes home with a notebook full of meaningless soccer aspirations and notes and they think “wow, he/she is really learning about soccer!”. In the absence of a game schedule and real opponents, what else would they think? In the end, it’s all a bunch of nothing. It’s over-rated Skills Development. There is no endgame to it, no identification, no moving on to NT or Olympics. ODP is a program whose time has passed.

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                  It is not actually individual skills development as that would have some merit. The lesson plans, I believe, are posted on their website and basically teach building out of the back. You don't need ODP for that. As a country, we are lacking those highly skilled individual players. ODP is not addressing that deficit in any way.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    It is not actually individual skills development as that would have some merit. The lesson plans, I believe, are posted on their website and basically teach building out of the back. You don't need ODP for that. As a country, we are lacking those highly skilled individual players. ODP is not addressing that deficit in any way.
                    So you picked the first lesson plan and think that is all they will do?

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      So you picked the first lesson plan and think that is all they will do?
                      Yes, that is all they will do. Kid did ODP for numerous years. Same lesson plan every year. Don't regret doing ODP but people should understand what they are signing up for. Divide out the cost of the program by the number of hours they actually meet. Then see if you can spend the same to get some quality private coaching to work with your kid on what they most need as a player. Then make a decision to do it or not.

                      ODP is just touches on a ball. If that is what your going for, then do it. It is not a path to anywhere and most top teams don't support participation. IMHO better to pay that private coach and target your kids weakness.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Yes, that is all they will do. Kid did ODP for numerous years. Same lesson plan every year. Don't regret doing ODP but people should understand what they are signing up for. Divide out the cost of the program by the number of hours they actually meet. Then see if you can spend the same to get some quality private coaching to work with your kid on what they most need as a player. Then make a decision to do it or not.

                        ODP is just touches on a ball. If that is what your going for, then do it. It is not a path to anywhere and most top teams don't support participation. IMHO better to pay that private coach and target your kids weakness.
                        ODP is not about developing players. It's about getting identified and building a resume. It's worth doing for a minimum of one year when your kid is at their entrance age which is the youngest of all of the ID paths. That year will give you a sense of where they stand relative to other kids in other clubs and other states. If your kid doesn't make the regional pool that should tell you that you can save the money you would be investing in private coaching and apply it to something else. That alone makes the program invaluable.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          ODP is not about developing players. It's about getting identified and building a resume. It's worth doing for a minimum of one year when your kid is at their entrance age which is the youngest of all of the ID paths. That year will give you a sense of where they stand relative to other kids in other clubs and other states. If your kid doesn't make the regional pool that should tell you that you can save the money you would be investing in private coaching and apply it to something else. That alone makes the program invaluable.
                          Spend money to save money?

                          Are you saying that if you don't make it the first year, you should just quit the game and move along?

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            ODP is not about developing players. It's about getting identified and building a resume. It's worth doing for a minimum of one year when your kid is at their entrance age which is the youngest of all of the ID paths. That year will give you a sense of where they stand relative to other kids in other clubs and other states. If your kid doesn't make the regional pool that should tell you that you can save the money you would be investing in private coaching and apply it to something else. That alone makes the program invaluable.
                            Identified for what? So your kid makes regional pool? So you can spend another $2,500 to send your kid to some far off land? Oh yes, you can do fundraisers in your spare time to help your kid's cause.

                            Seriously, are you really thinking a 12-year-old getting ID'd means something? A kid is either a really talented soccer player or they are not. ODP will not change that. You don't need a ODP as a measuring stick as it is a very poor one.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              ODP is not about developing players. It's about getting identified and building a resume. It's worth doing for a minimum of one year when your kid is at their entrance age which is the youngest of all of the ID paths. That year will give you a sense of where they stand relative to other kids in other clubs and other states. If your kid doesn't make the regional pool that should tell you that you can save the money you would be investing in private coaching and apply it to something else. That alone makes the program invaluable.
                              And BTNT tells us yet again what our own markers and cut-offs should be. As though the DB is actually interested in saving you or me money. It's all about rubbing in that your kid sucks for him. Only way he has found to maintain narcissistic equilibrium.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Spend money to save money?

                                Are you saying that if you don't make it the first year, you should just quit the game and move along?
                                No but it tells you that your kid is not on the fast track to high level soccer. All that is needed at that point is to adjust sites accordingly.

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