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Well, NYPL U12 uses AR's.

And anything U19 and under is youth soccer.
Any game not 11v11 and uses parents as ARs is diaper league!!!!!!!!!
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If he was an off-side position and he affected the goalie's vision, he would be deemed part of the play and therefore that's the correct call.

If he wasn't in an off-side position, then that's a stupid call.
This is one of many reasons why games like soccer and basketball are not real sports....as the rules for these "games" are discretionary!!!!
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This is one of many reasons why games like soccer and basketball are not real sports....as the rules for these "games" are discretionary!!!!
Pass interference and holding are "discretionary" calls that could be called on every single play in football.

Hockey will look to "intent" on high (or too low) hits

Baseball...heck...every pitch is called based on the umpire and it changes with every one of them.

Nice try, but you blew that one quite badly.
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Pass interference and holding are "discretionary" calls that could be called on every single play in football.

Hockey will look to "intent" on high (or too low) hits

Baseball...heck...every pitch is called based on the umpire and it changes with every one of them.

Nice try, but you blew that one quite badly.
FOOTBALL = Game
HOCKEY = Game
Baseball = Game

You are entering a league way above your ability of comprehension.

In a real Sport like Track & Field the best athletes are determined by who crosses the finish line 1st, without discretion, with no argument, it is what it is. In Track & Field you earn your placement.

Now lets take soccer, referees discretion on rules? many times the better teams lose on BS calls, many times really good kids don't get selected to play on high level teams because of a coaches discretion and/or personality conflicts!!!!?????....total BS.

Many, many times and lets think deeply on this....What makes soccer exciting is to see what call the referee is going to make and often times blow the game.....too many discrestionary calls, too much political BS involved with football, soccer, basketball and baseball to be considered a real sport!!!!....it is however a most beautiful game as a very famous futballer once said
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Pass interference and holding are "discretionary" calls that could be called on every single play in football.

Hockey will look to "intent" on high (or too low) hits

Baseball...heck...every pitch is called based on the umpire and it changes with every one of them.

Nice try, but you blew that one quite badly.
No, this person thinks the only "sports" are the original olympic sports, running wrestling, archery, discus, one or two others, but logic fails when it comes to equestrian sports that were original olympic sports.

I am trying to put an end to what will be a long drawn out trolling session by the guy with the 9 year old pugilist; please don't bite, it gets boring quick.
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No, this person thinks the only "sports" are the original olympic sports, running wrestling, archery, discus, one or two others, but logic fails when it comes to equestrian sports that were original olympic sports.

I am trying to put an end to what will be a long drawn out trolling session by the guy with the 9 year old pugilist; please don't bite, it gets boring quick.
Aah, got it.

Didn't know the poster was stuck in the old Olympiad.
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Aah, got it.

Didn't know the poster was stuck in the old Olympiad.
Yes. Ulysses over here thinks only competitions from 3000 years ago are sports.
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FOOTBALL = Game
HOCKEY = Game
Baseball = Game

You are entering a league way above your ability of comprehension.

In a real Sport like Track & Field the best athletes are determined by who crosses the finish line 1st, without discretion, with no argument, it is what it is. In Track & Field you earn your placement.

Now lets take soccer, referees discretion on rules? many times the better teams lose on BS calls, many times really good kids don't get selected to play on high level teams because of a coaches discretion and/or personality conflicts!!!!?????....total BS.

Many, many times and lets think deeply on this....What makes soccer exciting is to see what call the referee is going to make and often times blow the game.....too many discrestionary calls, too much political BS involved with football, soccer, basketball and baseball to be considered a real sport!!!!....it is however a most beautiful game as a very famous futballer once said
Soooo, here's the problem with this summary. In very competitive matches, those who cross the finish line, in particular in sprints, 1st, 2nd and 3rd are not always clear to the human eye. I have seen races where the incorrect person was awarded 1st because the time was correct but the human eye could not see who crossed first because it was that close.

NCAA and top competition USATF for instance use replay and digital timing because of the confusion that the human eye can not capture - (F.A.T. - fully automated timing system). An athlete can be beat if someone leans ahead of him/her at the finish line (which is why you see most runners lean/stretch at the end of a tight race). And why sometimes the awarding of the places may not be correct. You are talking about finishing in a flash.

Track realizes that it's virtually impossible to get it right all the time under these circumstances.

Old school was smoke was when you hit your watch not the sound of the starting gun, because the speed of sound vs. the speed of sight. If you are manually timing, you go by the smoke or muzzle flash, not the sound. Sound travels about 1 mile every 5 seconds. for a 100 m race, the timers are about 1/16 of a mile from the start. That means it will take about .3 seconds for the sound to get from the start line to the timers at the finish.

With the FAT equipment, it's tied directly to the starter gun and all of the races start at the same time so there is no confusion and no need to watch smoke instead of listening to sound. The runners leave their mark on the sound because they are not looking at the starter pistol.

Also, you still need the human eye to make sure relay batons transfer in the fly zones, no one crosses into another lane to interfere (the runners can be moving so quickly in the turns that centrifugal force/physics can actually move the runner into another lane).

There's your T&F lesson. It's subject to human error as well. All sports are subject to human error in officiating. Part of "the game."
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Soooo, here's the problem with this summary. In very competitive matches, those who cross the finish line, in particular in sprints, 1st, 2nd and 3rd are not always clear to the human eye. I have seen races where the incorrect person was awarded 1st because the time was correct but the human eye could not see who crossed first because it was that close.

NCAA and top competition USATF for instance use replay and digital timing because of the confusion that the human eye can not capture - (F.A.T. - fully automated timing system). An athlete can be beat if someone leans ahead of him/her at the finish line (which is why you see most runners lean/stretch at the end of a tight race). And why sometimes the awarding of the places may not be correct. You are talking about finishing in a flash.

Track realizes that it's virtually impossible to get it right all the time under these circumstances.

Old school was smoke was when you hit your watch not the sound of the starting gun, because the speed of sound vs. the speed of sight. If you are manually timing, you go by the smoke or muzzle flash, not the sound. Sound travels about 1 mile every 5 seconds. for a 100 m race, the timers are about 1/16 of a mile from the start. That means it will take about .3 seconds for the sound to get from the start line to the timers at the finish.

With the FAT equipment, it's tied directly to the starter gun and all of the races start at the same time so there is no confusion and no need to watch smoke instead of listening to sound. The runners leave their mark on the sound because they are not looking at the starter pistol.

Also, you still need the human eye to make sure relay batons transfer in the fly zones, no one crosses into another lane to interfere (the runners can be moving so quickly in the turns that centrifugal force/physics can actually move the runner into another lane).

There's your T&F lesson. It's subject to human error as well. All sports are subject to human error in officiating. Part of "the game."
Sorry buddy, in Track you have the speakers of the gun blast right behind you on the starting blocks....the finish line has laser tech. you may know all about the discretionary rules about soccer....as far as the simpleness of running a race and catching who comes in first.....you are dumb as a rock.
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Sorry buddy, in Track you have the speakers of the gun blast right behind you on the starting blocks....the finish line has laser tech. you may know all about the discretionary rules about soccer....as far as the simpleness of running a race and catching who comes in first.....you are dumb as a rock.
Its great that in a real sport like track and field they see the importance of getting it right so they implement tech. speakers at the starting blocks and laser precision at the finish line when races are that close....since some of you are complaining that real sports are only done 3000 years ago? where does that put soccer with virtually no improvements with officiating over the last 150 years!!!!!!!! these "games" are obviously not that important if they cant even do a video review.....Oh goal line tech only? thats it? refs have to much power and are either compromised (swayed) in a game and/or just human....

What is the excuse of pro soccer as a sport when the best players are not selected because either coach does not like the athlete personally?, or weaker kids parents coauged up some cash?, politics? happens all the time....At Least in GOLF....its all Math that determines the best player (personall issues and discretion and politics are not factors in GOLF).
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