And So It Begins

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OYSA and PTTL announced their "paradigm shift" today. I'll spare you reading the 20 plus pages. Fees stay the same or go up, and number of games goes down.

This is exactly what you get when you allow a monopoly to take over. Higher prices and lower quality of product. Aren't we all glad that Timbers/Thorns/OYSA run 99.9% of youth soccer in Oregon now?

[Unregistered]

OYSA and PTTL announced their "paradigm shift" today. I'll spare you reading the 20 plus pages. Fees stay the same or go up, and number of games goes down.

This is exactly what you get when you allow a monopoly to take over. Higher prices and lower quality of product. Aren't we all glad that Timbers/Thorns/OYSA run 99.9% of youth soccer in Oregon now?

How many less games are there? Hopefully clubs increase training days.

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Timbers are a profit motived organization so if this increases their profit that is good.

Notice the bottle of shampoo you bought for $5 ten years ago was twice the size it is now? Reduce your costs and increase your revenue. Good for the bottom line.

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any word on when in November the Fall league games will end?

[Unregistered]

Timbers are a profit motived organization so if this increases their profit that is good.

Notice the bottle of shampoo you bought for $5 ten years ago was twice the size it is now? Reduce your costs and increase your revenue. Good for the bottom line.

Great example. Except the difference is I can choose another brand of shampoo if one is too expensive or poor quality. That is the difference between capitalism and a monopoly. Econ 101.

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Great example. Except the difference is I can choose another brand of shampoo if one is too expensive or poor quality. That is the difference between capitalism and a monopoly. Econ 101.

The beauty of being disguised as a defacto Non-Profit....where capitalism, monopoly & Econ 101 get pushed to the side as 501c3's can't have profits by design and must re invest surplus revenue into reserves or invest into it's program serving the 'Mission' & 'Purpose'.

Scientology does it, the MAC club does it, LPGA does it the list goes on and on for those in the Non-Profit ilk.

The non-profit OYSA just green lighted a sub contractor (pergrine) since they operate out of a tin shack while the sub gets rich. Great work around by Peregrine. Serving the Mission, I guess.

[Unregistered]

OYSA and PTTL announced their "paradigm shift" today. I'll spare you reading the 20 plus pages. Fees stay the same or go up, and number of games goes down.

This is exactly what you get when you allow a monopoly to take over. Higher prices and lower quality of product. Aren't we all glad that Timbers/Thorns/OYSA run 99.9% of youth soccer in Oregon now?

Wish you actually spoke some of the truth. League fees went down, as well as amount of games did go down.

[Unregistered]

OYSA and PTTL announced their "paradigm shift" today. I'll spare you reading the 20 plus pages. Fees stay the same or go up, and number of games goes down.

This is exactly what you get when you allow a monopoly to take over. Higher prices and lower quality of product. Aren't we all glad that Timbers/Thorns/OYSA run 99.9% of youth soccer in Oregon now?

Fees went down. For example Last year U11-12 were 950 for Premier (14 games) and 850 for non premier (12 games)

This year U11-12 are 850 for premier (12 games) and 775 for non premier (10 games)

Which if you compare that to last years spring (10 games) it was 775. So its pretty consistent with previous years. Now you can argue its still too much money, but you can't say its more expensive. Get facts straight before you spew garbage.

[Unregistered]

OYSA and PTTL announced their "paradigm shift" today. I'll spare you reading the 20 plus pages. Fees stay the same or go up, and number of games goes down.

This is exactly what you get when you allow a monopoly to take over. Higher prices and lower quality of product. Aren't we all glad that Timbers/Thorns/OYSA run 99.9% of youth soccer in Oregon now?

Higher fees and lower quality product. The Timbers paradigm shift. Nice.

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Great example. Except the difference is I can choose another brand of shampoo if one is too expensive or poor quality. That is the difference between capitalism and a monopoly. Econ 101.

The beauty of being disguised with a legitimate Non-Profit doing all the heavy lifting....it's great to be in spot, where capitalism, monopoly & Econ 101 get pushed to the side as 501c3's can't have profits by design and must re invest surplus revenue into reserves or invest into it's program serving the 'Mission' & 'Purpose'.

Scientology does it, the MAC club does it, LPGA does it the list goes on and on for those in the Non-Profit ilk.

The non-profit OYSA just green lighted a sub contractor (peregrine) since they have been operating out of a tin shack while the sub gets rich.

Great work around by Peregrine. Serving the Mission, I guess.

OYSA bent over and was never asked, they continue to say thank you.

[Unregistered]

Fees went down. For example Last year U11-12 were 950 for Premier (14 games) and 850 for non premier (12 games)

This year U11-12 are 850 for premier (12 games) and 775 for non premier (10 games)

Which if you compare that to last years spring (10 games) it was 775. So its pretty consistent with previous years. Now you can argue its still too much money, but you can't say its more expensive. Get facts straight before you spew garbage.

Still higher cost than leagues in surrounding states.

[Unregistered]

Still higher cost than leagues in surrounding states.

HIgher cost. Inferior product. All the results of a monopoly. Welcome to the new paradigm shift, courtesy of the Timbers.

[Unregistered]

Still higher cost than leagues in surrounding states.

Pointing our the obvious:
the clubs are providing nearly all the requisite supplies and capital investment needed to play a game basically all of the upfront costs:

Land: huge cost
Turf or grass Fields (multi million dollar capital investment),
Turf field maintenance (more costs)
players & coaches-not cheap :) with insurance from purchasing player pass from USYS
flags, goals, nets (more capital investment),
lighted field (more capital investment),
uniforms, shoes, soccer shinguard's (can't play without them),
team benches (more capital investment)
Irrigation and water costs for fields.
Porta Poty's or bathroom.
The list coud go on and on.

OYSA sub contractor Peregrine provides:

A. Schedule

B. hopefully Refs.

C. A medal if you win the league. :)

This whole set up is insanity.

If Peregrine supplied all the things the clubs do above the price point they ask would be within the reason as they eat all the costs of doing business.

Now, it's just a sick twisted joke on the OYSA membership.

Racketeering has nothing on this model.

[Unregistered]

Just look at what it was in 2005 with OYSA Running it.

Reading this crap made me think.

I found the 2005 OYSA U11-14 Fall League registration form.

Here is the key point.

Playing Dates: September 10 – October 30, 2005; 14-game league with 16 play dates

League Entry Fee: $950 per team (Club checks or Certified checks only – one Check per club)
** $1,138 in in 2017 dollars
** 2005 cost per game was $67.85 compared to $81.29 2017 dollars

Member Registration: $27.00 per player; $12.00 for each manager and coach.
** Fees are $24 per player and $13 for manager/coaches

*** So using 12 game $850 premier, you get $70.83. That is less that in 2005.

Take away. It cost a lot more then OYSA was running the show.

[Unregistered]

Reading this crap made me think.

I found the 2005 OYSA U11-14 Fall League registration form.

Here is the key point.

Playing Dates: September 10 – October 30, 2005; 14-game league with 16 play dates

League Entry Fee: $950 per team (Club checks or Certified checks only – one Check per club)
** $1,138 in in 2017 dollars
** 2005 cost per game was $67.85 compared to $81.29 2017 dollars

Member Registration: $27.00 per player; $12.00 for each manager and coach.
** Fees are $24 per player and $13 for manager/coaches

*** So using 12 game $850 premier, you get $70.83. That is less that in 2005.

Take away. It cost a lot more then OYSA was running the show.

. . . and a lot less when OPL was running the show.

OYSA in "the good old days" had a monopoly and got bloated. Timbers today also have a monopoly (outside of DA and ECNL); as a result they have been able to drive up league and cups costs and player card fees were just raised dramatically this fall.

+ we get all their crappy spam.