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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    And with the way things are going that will be $2100 you threw out the window! No way will ECNL soccer be worth the price. For this soccer season there will be no such thing as a national league. Everything will be strictly local and maybe by the spring a little bit regional - if we get lucky - you will see. Things are reverting to how they used to be before all these crazy national leagues appeared, localized soccer!

    And that doesn’t even take into account the fact that the college scholarships are drying up faster than the Sahara. ECNL hangs its hat on the pathway/scholarships to college soccer - what happens when there are no more college athletic scholarships or even teams for that matter? Seems far fetched but it wouldn’t be surprising- colleges are in a world of hurt financially and eventually will be forced to make budget cuts.
    So you are saying for all ECNL parents to come over to your league DPL? No thanks. So you want ECNL parents to pay more? Is that the point of this post?

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Huh? Some of these posters on ts. Haha compared to GAL/DPL ECNL is literally much cheaper. Sounds like an angry dad who’s little daughter didn't make an ECNL team. Daddy... enjoy the GAL/DPL league.
      I think any statements on cost need to be all-in. Tuition, winter training programs, season travel, showcase/tournament travel, kits, etc.

      Not commenting on what is cheaper, but tuition doesn't cover all the costs to play.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        I think any statements on cost need to be all-in. Tuition, winter training programs, season travel, showcase/tournament travel, kits, etc.

        Not commenting on what is cheaper, but tuition doesn't cover all the costs to play.
        Agreed, but the original comment was that ECNL parents were wasting their money because travel will be restricted (huh?- restricted travel will make it cheaper). My kid’s tuition includes all training (fall, winter, spring) and 4 tournaments/showcases. I’d say that most clubs have similar uniform costs (every 2 years). Travel is the wildcard. Certainly, travel for ECNL/GA
        would be more than in NEP, however, with the realignment of ECNL in the northeast, there will be no trips to PA or MD for MA teams. If you have a kid on a MA ECNL team, 5 of the 8 teams they play against are an up and back trip—no hotel.

        The whole “waste of money” thing is comical. Would it be cheaper for my kid to play town soccer for $150? Sure. But that’s not comparing apples to apples.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          And with the way things are going that will be $2100 you threw out the window! No way will ECNL soccer be worth the price. For this soccer season there will be no such thing as a national league. Everything will be strictly local and maybe by the spring a little bit regional - if we get lucky - you will see. Things are reverting to how they used to be before all these crazy national leagues appeared, localized soccer!

          And that doesn’t even take into account the fact that the college scholarships are drying up faster than the Sahara. ECNL hangs its hat on the pathway/scholarships to college soccer - what happens when there are no more college athletic scholarships or even teams for that matter? Seems far fetched but it wouldn’t be surprising- colleges are in a world of hurt financially and eventually will be forced to make budget cuts.
          What is the point of this post? Do you have any clue about ECNL in this region? Is your kid even in club soccer? If they are you're paying two grand as well. If Covid screws things up it's likely to screw up your cherished "local" games as well. The NE is pretty much in this together. If you can play a team in MA you can likely play one in CT. Frankly, you may be more likely to be able to play a team in CT given how in MA soccer barely escaped high risk status and is likely on a hair trigger.

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            #20
            There will be no Club or high school soccer at all.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              There will be no Club or high school soccer at all.
              We know. You've been saying that for months. You must have been disappointed when clubs started practicing again. Must have been another real heartbreak when the state decided it was ok to play competitive games. Don't worry, I'm sure it's just a blip and we'll get back to the world ending in short order so you can be happy again.

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                #22
                Honestly, it's worth the $ to us either way. Even if they just train and scrimmage. Games will be a bonus. My kids like their coaches and teammates. And I'd like to keep our club afloat, they are good people.

                But the players and coaches who don't know anyone, change clubs every year, and are ready to stab each other in the back for any advantage - yeah, they might be wondering if it's worth it.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Honestly, it's worth the $ to us either way. Even if they just train and scrimmage. Games will be a bonus. My kids like their coaches and teammates. And I'd like to keep our club afloat, they are good people.

                  But the players and coaches who don't know anyone, change clubs every year, and are ready to stab each other in the back for any advantage - yeah, they might be wondering if it's worth it.
                  There is no wondering - IT AINT WORTH IT!

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    There is no wondering - IT AINT WORTH IT!
                    Simple solution - don’t sign up for club. No one is forcing you. And if others want to sign up for club why do you care?

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Huh? Some of these posters on ts. Haha compared to GAL/DPL ECNL is literally much cheaper. Sounds like an angry dad who’s little daughter didn't make an ECNL team. Daddy... enjoy the GAL/DPL league.
                      Oh ya much cheaper keep selling it that way you must be talking about thousands of dollars there pops you sound just as bad as the other poster here

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                        #26
                        How does this happen under the Phase III-Step 1 guidelines?

                        No tournaments may be held during the duration of Phase III, Step 1.

                        A “Tournament” is defined by the Commonwealth as a formal contest that consists of multiple games between multiple persons or teams, that might include multiple stages, played in a condensed period of time, such as over the course of a single day or multiple days in a row.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          How does this happen under the Phase III-Step 1 guidelines?

                          No tournaments may be held during the duration of Phase III, Step 1.

                          A “Tournament” is defined by the Commonwealth as a formal contest that consists of multiple games between multiple persons or teams, that might include multiple stages, played in a condensed period of time, such as over the course of a single day or multiple days in a row.
                          It doesn't. At least it doesn't in MA. They can open up their wallet and rent fields just over the border in NH if they really want the tournament to happen.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            How does this happen under the Phase III-Step 1 guidelines?

                            No tournaments may be held during the duration of Phase III, Step 1.

                            A “Tournament” is defined by the Commonwealth as a formal contest that consists of multiple games between multiple persons or teams, that might include multiple stages, played in a condensed period of time, such as over the course of a single day or multiple days in a row.
                            Again, it won’t happen if the rules don’t allow it when the time comes. Why is this so hard for people to understand? Over and over again we get posts along the lines of “how can they do this?” It’s been tryouts, then games, now tournaments. Clubs are just trying to plan things in an uncertain environment. If they happen that’s great. If not it’s ok. But they can’t throw these things together at the last minute so they plan as if they will be allowed.

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                              #29
                              Genuine question, what's the differentiation between playing a "tournament" and say a club hosting some pre-season 'in-house' games between it's own teams over a day/weekend?

                              e.g.
                              - Club X A team 06 v Club X B team 06
                              - Club X A team 06 v Club X B team 05
                              - Club X B team 06 v Club x A team 07

                              Is this allowed? I wouldn't call it a tournament as such... but it's still multiple games, etc

                              Can be dressed up as just club scrimmaging in training kits and no spectators and they "train" twice in a day...

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Genuine question, what's the differentiation between playing a "tournament" and say a club hosting some pre-season 'in-house' games between it's own teams over a day/weekend?

                                e.g.
                                - Club X A team 06 v Club X B team 06
                                - Club X A team 06 v Club X B team 05
                                - Club X B team 06 v Club x A team 07

                                Is this allowed? I wouldn't call it a tournament as such... but it's still multiple games, etc

                                Can be dressed up as just club scrimmaging in training kits and no spectators and they "train" twice in a day...
                                I don't see why they can't do this. Games/scrimmages are allowed. As long as they follow the facility rules and space things out appropriately. I don't think anyone would reasonably call this a tournament. Tournaments are a problem because you have multiple clubs with multiple teams at various age levels all descending on one area at the same time. In your example it isn't much different than a typical day of practice at a club complex.

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