Best NewEngland woman’s college/university for soccer/academics

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Just wanted to see if anyone was paying attention. Got to be a joke. I guess Brown somehow doesn’t count in “all Ivy” to take HC’s place?

OP has evicted RI from New England.

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OP has evicted RI from New England.

Lets merge it with Puerto Rico - PRI

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Boston College, BU, Northeastern, Holy Cross, UConn, UVM, UNH, Williams, Amherst, Tufts, Middlebury, Wesleyan, Bowdoin, Babson, MIT, Wheaton, Dartmouth, Harvard, Yale, Brandeis

UCONN women's soccer blows and the men's team is dominated by internationals. State school academics aren't in the same tier as most of those other schools but certain programs are excellent.

Players in the region have a treasure trove of great schools to chose from that don't require a plane ride to attend or even visit. Make your school target list first (academics, size, location etc), then look at the soccer fit. Like a non athlete, have a few stretches, a good number of solids and a few safeties.

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UConn will get it together and be up there this year.

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Trump

BC ,BU,NE ,UM,Harvard ,Providence .

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The laughable part about this thread is while New England might rightly be considered the big leagues academically because you have two of the most prominent schools in the world in our back yard, the soccer in this area is just no where near the same level. The love affair some on this site have with D3 schools has always been amusing because outside of Williams most of the D3's are actually several rungs down the ladder from the real prestige schools that they are all trying to pretend their kids could get into. The reality of the situation is this area is a backwater from a college soccer perspective. BC is the only D1 school around here that has fairly consistently flirted with the top 20 but unfortunately their administration is schizophrenic and consistently pulling the rug out from under their athletic programs. The net effect is they are not a serious national program when you look at them objectively and if your kid has that level of talent there are plenty of other choices out there for them, especially if they can do it in the classroom as well. The rest of the D1 programs in the region are generally lucky to crack the top 100 in any given year. None of them has done that with any degree of consistency that would demonstrate a strong underlying foundation (strong and consistent coaching coupled with strong recruiting) in the program. If your kid is not one of the unicorns destined for a top level program I would suggest that is what you actually should be looking for for them. A place where they get treated well and have a chance to play and win (the other options are a miserable existence) while getting a quality education at a reasonable price. Unfortunately you usually have to send them out of the region to find the best possible mix of soccer program with strong academics. The idea though that you have to drop all the way down to D3 to accomplish that is just not accurate unless you have a perverse love affair with tiny schools in the hick parts of New England. Objectively if you look if you look at the academics at most of those types of schools, you actually can find a similar quality of education at the D1/D2 level in a lot of places. Those schools are not nearly as special as some here like to think. From a soccer point of view there is just a huge gulf between the level of soccer at the D1 level and the D2 level, never mind the D3 level. Look no further than Bryant's experience for proof. At one time they were a dominant D2 program who then jumped up to D1 only to languish at the bottom of the D1 rankings ever since. And they have always had scholarships. The idea that these programs without scholarships and with less organized practices are going to be able consistently win against D1 or D2 programs that do is just a fantasy. If you really want to talk about soccer in this region you really have to look at the Big-East, The Ivy and the A10 at the D1 level and the NE-10 at the D2 level. 99% of the kids from this region are going to find a good fit academically, athletically and socially in those 4 conferences yet this site seems to spend all of its time talking about the NESCACS. Go figure.

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The laughable part about this thread is while New England might rightly be considered the big leagues academically because you have two of the most prominent schools in the world in our back yard, the soccer in this area is just no where near the same level. The love affair some on this site have with D3 schools has always been amusing because outside of Williams most of the D3's are actually several rungs down the ladder from the real prestige schools that they are all trying to pretend their kids could get into. The reality of the situation is this area is a backwater from a college soccer perspective. BC is the only D1 school around here that has fairly consistently flirted with the top 20 but unfortunately their administration is schizophrenic and consistently pulling the rug out from under their athletic programs. The net effect is they are not a serious national program when you look at them objectively and if your kid has that level of talent there are plenty of other choices out there for them, especially if they can do it in the classroom as well. The rest of the D1 programs in the region are generally lucky to crack the top 100 in any given year. None of them has done that with any degree of consistency that would demonstrate a strong underlying foundation (strong and consistent coaching coupled with strong recruiting) in the program. If your kid is not one of the unicorns destined for a top level program I would suggest that is what you actually should be looking for for them. A place where they get treated well and have a chance to play and win (the other options are a miserable existence) while getting a quality education at a reasonable price. Unfortunately you usually have to send them out of the region to find the best possible mix of soccer program with strong academics. The idea though that you have to drop all the way down to D3 to accomplish that is just not accurate unless you have a perverse love affair with tiny schools in the hick parts of New England. Objectively if you look if you look at the academics at most of those types of schools, you actually can find a similar quality of education at the D1/D2 level in a lot of places. Those schools are not nearly as special as some here like to think. From a soccer point of view there is just a huge gulf between the level of soccer at the D1 level and the D2 level, never mind the D3 level. Look no further than Bryant's experience for proof. At one time they were a dominant D2 program who then jumped up to D1 only to languish at the bottom of the D1 rankings ever since. And they have always had scholarships. The idea that these programs without scholarships and with less organized practices are going to be able consistently win against D1 or D2 programs that do is just a fantasy. If you really want to talk about soccer in this region you really have to look at the Big-East, The Ivy and the A10 at the D1 level and the NE-10 at the D2 level. 99% of the kids from this region are going to find a good fit academically, athletically and socially in those 4 conferences yet this site seems to spend all of its time talking about the NESCACS. Go figure.

Do you feel better about yourself now, Paul?

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IfyouthinkI'mgoingtoreadthatgiantrantwithnobreaksa ndnotruesentencestructureandparagraphsyouarecrazy

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The problem with the Patriot League is except for the BU and Colgate, the bulk of the soccer programs are ranked in the bottom half of the rankings. Great schools for sure but the soccer is lacking generally.

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This has all been hashed out before.

"SPLAM Score: The ultimate bragging rank"
talking-soccer.com/TS4/showthread.php?t=123063

"The SPLAM Score Revisted: The 50 Best Colleges for Athletes"
talking-soccer.com/TS4/showthread.php?t=123927

If someone wants to refresh the scores, knock yourself out, but the underlying conclusions probably haven't changed all that much

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The laughable part about this thread is while New England might rightly be considered the big leagues academically because you have two of the most prominent schools in the world in our back yard, the soccer in this area is just no where near the same level. The love affair some on this site have with D3 schools has always been amusing because outside of Williams most of the D3's are actually several rungs down the ladder from the real prestige schools that they are all trying to pretend their kids could get into. The reality of the situation is this area is a backwater from a college soccer perspective. BC is the only D1 school around here that has fairly consistently flirted with the top 20 but unfortunately their administration is schizophrenic and consistently pulling the rug out from under their athletic programs. The net effect is they are not a serious national program when you look at them objectively and if your kid has that level of talent there are plenty of other choices out there for them, especially if they can do it in the classroom as well. The rest of the D1 programs in the region are generally lucky to crack the top 100 in any given year. None of them has done that with any degree of consistency that would demonstrate a strong underlying foundation (strong and consistent coaching coupled with strong recruiting) in the program. If your kid is not one of the unicorns destined for a top level program I would suggest that is what you actually should be looking for for them. A place where they get treated well and have a chance to play and win (the other options are a miserable existence) while getting a quality education at a reasonable price. Unfortunately you usually have to send them out of the region to find the best possible mix of soccer program with strong academics. The idea though that you have to drop all the way down to D3 to accomplish that is just not accurate unless you have a perverse love affair with tiny schools in the hick parts of New England. Objectively if you look if you look at the academics at most of those types of schools, you actually can find a similar quality of education at the D1/D2 level in a lot of places. Those schools are not nearly as special as some here like to think. From a soccer point of view there is just a huge gulf between the level of soccer at the D1 level and the D2 level, never mind the D3 level. Look no further than Bryant's experience for proof. At one time they were a dominant D2 program who then jumped up to D1 only to languish at the bottom of the D1 rankings ever since. And they have always had scholarships. The idea that these programs without scholarships and with less organized practices are going to be able consistently win against D1 or D2 programs that do is just a fantasy. If you really want to talk about soccer in this region you really have to look at the Big-East, The Ivy and the A10 at the D1 level and the NE-10 at the D2 level. 99% of the kids from this region are going to find a good fit academically, athletically and socially in those 4 conferences yet this site seems to spend all of its time talking about the NESCACS. Go figure.

Geez, and you had been doing so well, BTNT. Yet another post of attempting to ***** any D3 balloon that you can. What an impressive guy. Not many meds for echolalia, but Anafranil might be worth a shot.

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The laughable part about this thread is while New England might rightly be considered the big leagues academically because you have two of the most prominent schools in the world in our back yard, the soccer in this area is just no where near the same level. The love affair some on this site have with D3 schools has always been amusing because outside of Williams most of the D3's are actually several rungs down the ladder from the real prestige schools that they are all trying to pretend their kids could get into. The reality of the situation is this area is a backwater from a college soccer perspective. BC is the only D1 school around here that has fairly consistently flirted with the top 20 but unfortunately their administration is schizophrenic and consistently pulling the rug out from under their athletic programs. The net effect is they are not a serious national program when you look at them objectively and if your kid has that level of talent there are plenty of other choices out there for them, especially if they can do it in the classroom as well. The rest of the D1 programs in the region are generally lucky to crack the top 100 in any given year. None of them has done that with any degree of consistency that would demonstrate a strong underlying foundation (strong and consistent coaching coupled with strong recruiting) in the program. If your kid is not one of the unicorns destined for a top level program I would suggest that is what you actually should be looking for for them. A place where they get treated well and have a chance to play and win (the other options are a miserable existence) while getting a quality education at a reasonable price. Unfortunately you usually have to send them out of the region to find the best possible mix of soccer program with strong academics. The idea though that you have to drop all the way down to D3 to accomplish that is just not accurate unless you have a perverse love affair with tiny schools in the hick parts of New England. Objectively if you look if you look at the academics at most of those types of schools, you actually can find a similar quality of education at the D1/D2 level in a lot of places. Those schools are not nearly as special as some here like to think. From a soccer point of view there is just a huge gulf between the level of soccer at the D1 level and the D2 level, never mind the D3 level. Look no further than Bryant's experience for proof. At one time they were a dominant D2 program who then jumped up to D1 only to languish at the bottom of the D1 rankings ever since. And they have always had scholarships. The idea that these programs without scholarships and with less organized practices are going to be able consistently win against D1 or D2 programs that do is just a fantasy. If you really want to talk about soccer in this region you really have to look at the Big-East, The Ivy and the A10 at the D1 level and the NE-10 at the D2 level. 99% of the kids from this region are going to find a good fit academically, athletically and socially in those 4 conferences yet this site seems to spend all of its time talking about the NESCACS. Go figure.

The thought process here is laughable. Not everyone...in fact, very few...are going to play at the level that you deem "important". Even those who do, most won't play after college. I thought it went without saying, but obviously not, that these discussions are about what's important to those whose kids are involved. There is NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING, wrong with playing at the level you belong AND caring about it.

What a ridiculous notion that the only soccer that matters is the "best". To you, probably. To everyone else? Nah. Move along.

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The thought process here is laughable. Not everyone...in fact, very few...are going to play at the level that you deem "important". Even those who do, most won't play after college. I thought it went without saying, but obviously not, that these discussions are about what's important to those whose kids are involved. There is NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING, wrong with playing at the level you belong AND caring about it.

What a ridiculous notion that the only soccer that matters is the "best". To you, probably. To everyone else? Nah. Move along.

Exactly. One thing we all can do to move this game forward and to improve our standing internationally (and maintain it for women's) is to respect all levels of play.

Play at the level you can and love the game. Then, pass it along to your children. This bullshlt theory that only the best matter is just that...bullshlt.

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The laughable part about this thread is while New England might rightly be considered the big leagues academically because you have two of the most prominent schools in the world in our back yard, the soccer in this area is just no where near the same level. The love affair some on this site have with D3 schools has always been amusing because outside of Williams most of the D3's are actually several rungs down the ladder from the real prestige schools that they are all trying to pretend their kids could get into. The reality of the situation is this area is a backwater from a college soccer perspective. BC is the only D1 school around here that has fairly consistently flirted with the top 20 but unfortunately their administration is schizophrenic and consistently pulling the rug out from under their athletic programs. The net effect is they are not a serious national program when you look at them objectively and if your kid has that level of talent there are plenty of other choices out there for them, especially if they can do it in the classroom as well. The rest of the D1 programs in the region are generally lucky to crack the top 100 in any given year. None of them has done that with any degree of consistency that would demonstrate a strong underlying foundation (strong and consistent coaching coupled with strong recruiting) in the program. If your kid is not one of the unicorns destined for a top level program I would suggest that is what you actually should be looking for for them. A place where they get treated well and have a chance to play and win (the other options are a miserable existence) while getting a quality education at a reasonable price. Unfortunately you usually have to send them out of the region to find the best possible mix of soccer program with strong academics. The idea though that you have to drop all the way down to D3 to accomplish that is just not accurate unless you have a perverse love affair with tiny schools in the hick parts of New England. Objectively if you look if you look at the academics at most of those types of schools, you actually can find a similar quality of education at the D1/D2 level in a lot of places. Those schools are not nearly as special as some here like to think. From a soccer point of view there is just a huge gulf between the level of soccer at the D1 level and the D2 level, never mind the D3 level. Look no further than Bryant's experience for proof. At one time they were a dominant D2 program who then jumped up to D1 only to languish at the bottom of the D1 rankings ever since. And they have always had scholarships. The idea that these programs without scholarships and with less organized practices are going to be able consistently win against D1 or D2 programs that do is just a fantasy. If you really want to talk about soccer in this region you really have to look at the Big-East, The Ivy and the A10 at the D1 level and the NE-10 at the D2 level. 99% of the kids from this region are going to find a good fit academically, athletically and socially in those 4 conferences yet this site seems to spend all of its time talking about the NESCACS. Go figure.

Please learn how to use the enter key to break up paragraphs.

Perhaps they never instructed that at Duke. Or maybe being a meathead football player precluded you from obtaining that advice.

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Please learn how to use the enter key to break up paragraphs.

Perhaps they never instructed that at Duke. Or maybe being a meathead football player precluded you from obtaining that advice.

I think that this is his style. It's intentional, like having a signature of sorts. Perhaps it's his own bizarre way of testing other readers by forcing them to fight their way through his ridiculous writing to discern his points. He certainly doesn't seem terribly interested in making his thoughts accessible or understandable. He's just too elitist, perhaps?