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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Questions,why do you just swallow hook line and sinker the nonsense fed to you by the defensive side of a lawsuit?

    Understand how to look at this with apples to apples comparisons instread of apples to ussf gobbledygook.
    So the USSF pays the entire NWSL salary plus benefits for each WNT player and that is not supposed to count? Sounds like BS to me. Sure, pay them the same per game. Just cut out the league subsidy. Then watch the NWSL go under.

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      #17
      Hope Solo is trying to get a seat at the negotiating table, something no one on either side wants. Sure, she fought for equal pay, but she's no long on the team.

      "Hope Solo is still trying to get a seat during mediation sessions between the U.S. Soccer Federation and the Untied States Women’s National Team, even after both sides have shot down the idea.

      In a 10-page motion filed on Monday, Hope Solo called for legal action to be taken against her former teammates after they didn't let her join their equal-pay mediations with the U.S. Soccer Federation. The former USWNT goalie filed a “strongly-worded” 10-page motion on Monday, calling for legal sanctions against her former teammates and their attorneys days after they rejected her request to join their mediation sessions with the USSF regarding their equal pay lawsuit filed earlier this year. Both the USWNT and the USSF said on Friday that, “with all due respect,” Solo’s help isn’t needed in the mediation sessions.

      In the motion filed on Monday, Solo said that their brief rejecting her bid to join the mediation sessions needs to be removed from the official record. Otherwise, Solo maintains her reputation will take a major hit, according to The Athletic. The “improper filing of the untruthful Opposition has already caused Solo to suffer undeserved irreparable harm, ridicule and humiliation in the mainstream and social media,” she wrote in the motion, via The Athletic.

      “It’s unfortunate that in their continued quest to marginalize Hope Solo, the player who has lead the fight for equal pay at every stage, including being the first player to file a federal lawsuit for equal pay eight months before the other members of the team, the USWNT and their counsel elected to file an Opposition that not only inaccurately represents the nature of their case, and Hope's status in that matter, but also boldly violates the Federal Rules in order to partner with U.S. Soccer to keep Hope out of their Mediation,” Solo’s attorney, Rich Nichols, said in a statement to Yahoo Sports.










      http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/socc...gDG?li=BBnb7Kz

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        So the USSF pays the entire NWSL salary plus benefits for each WNT player and that is not supposed to count? Sounds like BS to me. Sure, pay them the same per game. Just cut out the league subsidy. Then watch the NWSL go under.
        Most clubs can barely pay their utility bills as it is.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Hope Solo is trying to get a seat at the negotiating table, something no one on either side wants. Sure, she fought for equal pay, but she's no long on the team.

          "Hope Solo is still trying to get a seat during mediation sessions between the U.S. Soccer Federation and the Untied States Women’s National Team, even after both sides have shot down the idea.

          In a 10-page motion filed on Monday, Hope Solo called for legal action to be taken against her former teammates after they didn't let her join their equal-pay mediations with the U.S. Soccer Federation. The former USWNT goalie filed a “strongly-worded” 10-page motion on Monday, calling for legal sanctions against her former teammates and their attorneys days after they rejected her request to join their mediation sessions with the USSF regarding their equal pay lawsuit filed earlier this year. Both the USWNT and the USSF said on Friday that, “with all due respect,” Solo’s help isn’t needed in the mediation sessions.

          In the motion filed on Monday, Solo said that their brief rejecting her bid to join the mediation sessions needs to be removed from the official record. Otherwise, Solo maintains her reputation will take a major hit, according to The Athletic. The “improper filing of the untruthful Opposition has already caused Solo to suffer undeserved irreparable harm, ridicule and humiliation in the mainstream and social media,” she wrote in the motion, via The Athletic.

          “It’s unfortunate that in their continued quest to marginalize Hope Solo, the player who has lead the fight for equal pay at every stage, including being the first player to file a federal lawsuit for equal pay eight months before the other members of the team, the USWNT and their counsel elected to file an Opposition that not only inaccurately represents the nature of their case, and Hope's status in that matter, but also boldly violates the Federal Rules in order to partner with U.S. Soccer to keep Hope out of their Mediation,” Solo’s attorney, Rich Nichols, said in a statement to Yahoo Sports.










          http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/socc...gDG?li=BBnb7Kz
          Sounds like Hope is getting no love. She has been kicked out of most everything she was in, including her family. Tough to suddenly find yourself irrelevant. Certainly not reinventing herself. Same old Hope.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            So the USSF pays the entire NWSL salary plus benefits for each WNT player and that is not supposed to count? Sounds like BS to me. Sure, pay them the same per game. Just cut out the league subsidy. Then watch the NWSL go under.
            Forget the equal pay rant. The US Women want US Soccer to prop up the NWSL and the entire WWC, which makes a tiny fraction of what the Men’s WC makes. The want a huge uptick in $$ while the sport is not earning anything close to the Men’s side.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Forget the equal pay rant. The US Women want US Soccer to prop up the NWSL and the entire WWC, which makes a tiny fraction of what the Men’s WC makes. The want a huge uptick in $$ while the sport is not earning anything close to the Men’s side.
              Fact is women's soccer is a once every few years thing in the US. Outside of international events no one pays any attention to it. If the WNT wasn't as successful as it is it wouldn't even generate half the attention it's had the last several years. Attendance numbers at NWSL games is a joke. No one pays attention to the WNBA either, and basketball is a much more popular sport.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                BS lawsuit

                According to US soccer:

                According to a letter released Monday by U.S. Soccer President Carlos Cordeiro, the federation paid out $34.1 million in salary and game bonuses to the women between 2010 and 2018 as opposed to $26.4 million paid to the men. The total does not include the value of benefits received only by the women, like health care.


                https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-socc...-than-the-men/

                Any such lawsuit is going to be thrown out when the judge sees that the women are already receiving significantly more than the men.

                The women played many more games, the guys did not qualify for the WC and Olympics. And any around the US victory tours. That explains why more salary earned, but the guys earned almost as much without having to play the same amount of games. It's not apples vs. apples. If they go head to head with comparisons as far as amount of games, the women will be significantly less.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  So the USSF pays the entire NWSL salary plus benefits for each WNT player and that is not supposed to count? Sounds like BS to me. Sure, pay them the same per game. Just cut out the league subsidy. Then watch the NWSL go under.
                  Agreed that USSF is propping up NWSL, but it also works to USSF’s and team owner’s advantage a lot more than it does the players and absolutely hurts women’s soccer. Non-allocated (meaning non-USWNT) minimum pay in NWSL is $15k/yr and the majority of players are making close to that. Allocated players make a minimum NWSL salary of $46k although stars like Morgan make more through bonuses and private endorsements. Still a very top player like Morgan is probably earning $500k in an average year, which is chicken feed in the pro sports world for top talent. For very little salary/bonus money, USSF gets control of their careers whether they are in a club or national team jersey. Team owners get cheap talent and don’t need to pay for their top talent (USWNT members) so they don’t invest heavily in their teams. And whenever you or I hear about how little women’s soccer players are paid, another young talent coming up in HS or college hears that too and decides not to go pro and the sport suffers. Nothing move forward because USSF repeatedly fails to meaningfully invest in the women’s side of the sport. The message is always the men must move first and then they’ll invest in the women, but the simple fact is that the women have been stronger for decades and they’ve squandered the money on the men’s side.

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                    #24
                    As many of the international leagues for women are getting much more support (isn't the Premier League sponsoring the women's leagues now??) and money, it will be interesting to see what happens. USSF will have to support NWSL more to compete or they will loose all the internationals that come over to play as well as home grown talent.

                    Remember, women's soccer is the #1 sport for women/girls in the world. Now is the time. USSF can get in on it or have to swim after the boat after it left the dock.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Agreed that USSF is propping up NWSL, but it also works to USSF’s and team owner’s advantage a lot more than it does the players and absolutely hurts women’s soccer. Non-allocated (meaning non-USWNT) minimum pay in NWSL is $15k/yr and the majority of players are making close to that. Allocated players make a minimum NWSL salary of $46k although stars like Morgan make more through bonuses and private endorsements. Still a very top player like Morgan is probably earning $500k in an average year, which is chicken feed in the pro sports world for top talent. For very little salary/bonus money, USSF gets control of their careers whether they are in a club or national team jersey. Team owners get cheap talent and don’t need to pay for their top talent (USWNT members) so they don’t invest heavily in their teams. And whenever you or I hear about how little women’s soccer players are paid, another young talent coming up in HS or college hears that too and decides not to go pro and the sport suffers. Nothing move forward because USSF repeatedly fails to meaningfully invest in the women’s side of the sport. The message is always the men must move first and then they’ll invest in the women, but the simple fact is that the women have been stronger for decades and they’ve squandered the money on the men’s side.
                      get your numbers right. thye are wrong

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Jill Ellis had an option to stick around for 2020 Olympics, but chose not to. Understandable to want to go out a winner, but wondering what this says for USWNT in less than a year to the Olympics and beyond? Does she see the writing on the wall for the program as veterans like Lloyd, Heath, Morgan, etc. age and retire?

                        https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.esp...3fplatform=amp
                        Perfect time for her to leave. Wont have to be involved in making tough decisions to get WC roster down to Olympic number, which i think is 17 or 18. Go out on top

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Agreed that USSF is propping up NWSL, but it also works to USSF’s and team owner’s advantage a lot more than it does the players and absolutely hurts women’s soccer. Non-allocated (meaning non-USWNT) minimum pay in NWSL is $15k/yr and the majority of players are making close to that. Allocated players make a minimum NWSL salary of $46k although stars like Morgan make more through bonuses and private endorsements. Still a very top player like Morgan is probably earning $500k in an average year, which is chicken feed in the pro sports world for top talent. For very little salary/bonus money, USSF gets control of their careers whether they are in a club or national team jersey. Team owners get cheap talent and don’t need to pay for their top talent (USWNT members) so they don’t invest heavily in their teams. And whenever you or I hear about how little women’s soccer players are paid, another young talent coming up in HS or college hears that too and decides not to go pro and the sport suffers. Nothing move forward because USSF repeatedly fails to meaningfully invest in the women’s side of the sport. The message is always the men must move first and then they’ll invest in the women, but the simple fact is that the women have been stronger for decades and they’ve squandered the money on the men’s side.
                          Club owners are businessmen. They will invest more when they see a bigger opportunity. Other than the Thorns no NWSL club averages more than maybe 7500 per game. For all the interest in the WNT and WC it isn't translating to regular butts in the seats or TV deals (Lifetime dropped the league after one year.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            get your numbers right. thye are wrong
                            Numbers are right.
                            https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ore...outputType=amp

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                              #29
                              Another consideration: the men take a bigger risk with their professional careers if a NT injury takes them out. What if Tim Howard's career had been halted?

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                they are wrong. your numbers refer to an NWSL player. Not an allocated WNT player

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