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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    There are multiple things we simply cannot replicate that are found elsewhere in the world. We need a better system that can work with our own circumstances
    Here is the rapidly evolving truth. Skip college and go pro.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Here is the rapidly evolving truth. Skip college and go pro.
      More boys are going that route. College is a developmental dead end. Men who have the balls and skills to go pro after HS are trying the pro path, either MLS or the very rare ones who can hack it abroad. in the long run that will (or in theory will) help the men's NT get better. For the women they have fewer options. The US women's pro opportunities are so limited and poor quality. Plenty have questioned Pugh's decision to walk away from what was no doubt a full ride to a great school to go pro and do NT. She's still young so we'll see where she takes it. A few other top players are going abroad as other countries ramp up their investment in women's soccer, but once they've gotten their degrees.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        No news here, just another obvious observation:

        http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaell.../#266a15e46621
        Here’s the problem. There are very few open areas to play these days. A few parks here and there, but how many are walkable enough to get 10–12 kids to go there? You’re also kidding yourself if you think just pickup soccer is the answer. It needs to have an organizational element to it and coaching (in addition to pickup). On the men’s side, the club’s foot the bill because they are making hundreds of millions from their first teams. Not the case here. Plus, there are more opportunities over here. Lacrosse is now huge. Field hockey growing. Basketball is big business.

        Cost? The actual tuition cost isn’t much when you think about the hours involved. And pretty sure nearly every club offers financial assistance for those that need it. The travel is the cost. No easy way around that one, but if it means enough for a kid what’s wrong with working to raise money to offset those costs? Everyone wants things handed to them. Work for it and you’ll appreciate it more. If it doesn’t mean enough to you to do that, then don’t complain about it.

        Youth soccer is far better organized now than it used to be, the competition is better and safety has been taken into account. If numbers are down it’s for the reasons above. And that’s not a bad thing. By U14, there simply aren’t enough quality players. High school isn’t going to take everyone. College soccer not likely an option. Kids see that and move on to other things.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Here’s the problem. There are very few open areas to play these days. A few parks here and there, but how many are walkable enough to get 10–12 kids to go there? You’re also kidding yourself if you think just pickup soccer is the answer. It needs to have an organizational element to it and coaching (in addition to pickup). On the men’s side, the club’s foot the bill because they are making hundreds of millions from their first teams. Not the case here. Plus, there are more opportunities over here. Lacrosse is now huge. Field hockey growing. Basketball is big business.

          Cost? The actual tuition cost isn’t much when you think about the hours involved. And pretty sure nearly every club offers financial assistance for those that need it. The travel is the cost. No easy way around that one, but if it means enough for a kid what’s wrong with working to raise money to offset those costs? Everyone wants things handed to them. Work for it and you’ll appreciate it more. If it doesn’t mean enough to you to do that, then don’t complain about it.

          Youth soccer is far better organized now than it used to be, the competition is better and safety has been taken into account. If numbers are down it’s for the reasons above. And that’s not a bad thing. By U14, there simply aren’t enough quality players. High school isn’t going to take everyone. College soccer not likely an option. Kids see that and move on to other things.
          "Financial assistance"? LOL. Nope. If your kid is good, then tuition can be waived if you ask, but that decision is not based on financial need of the family, it's based on player need of the club.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            More boys are going that route. College is a developmental dead end. Men who have the balls and skills to go pro after HS are trying the pro path, either MLS or the very rare ones who can hack it abroad. in the long run that will (or in theory will) help the men's NT get better. For the women they have fewer options. The US women's pro opportunities are so limited and poor quality. Plenty have questioned Pugh's decision to walk away from what was no doubt a full ride to a great school to go pro and do NT. She's still young so we'll see where she takes it. A few other top players are going abroad as other countries ramp up their investment in women's soccer, but once they've gotten their degrees.
            i dont question Pughs decision. I do question why she was hand picked when she cannot crack the lineup and has had limited impact in the NWSL. In soccer terms she is not that young anymore.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              i dont question Pughs decision. I do question why she was hand picked when she cannot crack the lineup and has had limited impact in the NWSL. In soccer terms she is not that young anymore.
              Her lack of PT on the NT doesn't bode well.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Her lack of PT on the NT doesn't bode well.
                You people are cra cra. People love her, Ellis does not. She's a great player

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  You people are cra cra. People love her, Ellis does not. She's a great player
                  I’m not even sure that Ellis dislikes her. I think Ellis had a very set plan on how she wanted to play (score early and pack it in) and Pugh wasn’t the right player for this Workd Cup. She’s fast and talented and will most likely take over one of the forward spots as the others age out.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    I’m not even sure that Ellis dislikes her. I think Ellis had a very set plan on how she wanted to play (score early and pack it in) and Pugh wasn’t the right player for this Workd Cup. She’s fast and talented and will most likely take over one of the forward spots as the others age out.
                    there are quite a few fast players....why are they not being hand picked and promoted ?

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                      #25
                      Alex Morgan-Youth Soccer Broken

                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      there are quite a few fast players....why are they not being hand picked and promoted ?
                      ask the coaching staff (no one on TS knows anything)...obviously they made all the right decisions....people like you will always criticize.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        there are quite a few fast players....why are they not being hand picked and promoted ?
                        Good point. Actually quite a few faster and even better players though Pugh is great. It’s all about hype to promote the popularity of the team. Main thing at the time was Pugh was cute and marketable. Rapinoe ended up being better(IMHO) and the most popular though. Kind of like that old show CHIPS where they set it up and planned for the big heart throb star to be the blond actor whose name I don’t even remember... But it was his sidekick Latino Erik Estrada as “Ponch” who carried the show and was the popular one. Coaches (not even in male European academies!) are good at predicting which players will develop best over time. Pugh might still end up a star player on the USWNT but my bet is now on Rose Lavelle or some newcomer. A heck of a lot of talented players in the pipeline. There is no conspiracy but soccer is a weird sport where talent is intangible and so one coach’s star is another coach’s pine rider or not on the team. It’s also a team sport where chemistry is crucial.

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                          #27
                          Alex Morgan-Youth Soccer Broken

                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Good point. Actually quite a few faster and even better players though Pugh is great. It’s all about hype to promote the popularity of the team. Main thing at the time was Pugh was cute and marketable. Rapinoe ended up being better(IMHO) and the most popular though. Kind of like that old show CHIPS where they set it up and planned for the big heart throb star to be the blond actor whose name I don’t even remember... But it was his sidekick Latino Erik Estrada as “Ponch” who carried the show and was the popular one. Coaches (not even in male European academies!) are good at predicting which players will develop best over time. Pugh might still end up a star player on the USWNT but my bet is now on Rose Lavelle or some newcomer. A heck of a lot of talented players in the pipeline. There is no conspiracy but soccer is a weird sport where talent is intangible and so one coach’s star is another coach’s pine rider or not on the team. It’s also a team sport where chemistry is crucial.
                          i wish they played lloyd more, but in the end Ellis made all the right decisions and got the job done. Criticizing the coach over this and that is pointless when they get the job done.

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                            #28
                            She’s 21 and light years ahead of her age group peers.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              i dont question Pughs decision. I do question why she was hand picked when she cannot crack the lineup and has had limited impact in the NWSL. In soccer terms she is not that young anymore.
                              Nike picked the world cup team for the most part so having the team dominated by their sponsored players was no surprise.

                              As for Alex Morgan...

                              "Pay-to-play is a terrible thing because it makes becoming an elite player harder for low income kids! By the way, if you want to be great you should have your parents hire one of these Beast Mode trainers at $150/hour if you want to be able to compete with the training top players do."

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                                #30
                                Alex Morgan-Youth Soccer Broken

                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Nike picked the world cup team for the most part so having the team dominated by their sponsored players was no surprise.

                                As for Alex Morgan...

                                "Pay-to-play is a terrible thing because it makes becoming an elite player harder for low income kids! By the way, if you want to be great you should have your parents hire one of these Beast Mode trainers at $150/hour if you want to be able to compete with the training top players do."
                                Morgan and Pugh should make a swimsuit calendar and make more money....it would be totally worth it!!!!

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