Timbers and affiliates

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What is thread about

What is this thread about ?

Do the Timbers have home grown players, yes
Do the alliance clubs send players to the DA who sign in MLS, yes
Is it a ton of players, no
Do all OYSA clubs send players to college, yes
For many many years
Do many Establish OYSA competitive club have rec clubs, yes

Sounds like it works.

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After watching the Timbers for the last few years one can't help but notice the lack of Oregon youth in the 1st team.

What about Marco Farfan?

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What about Marco Farfan?

He's starting to get first-team minutes, and unlike last season, is now looking like he belongs on an MLS pitch. (He's still a youngun, so plenty of room for improvement).

Whether he'll be able to unseat Jorge Villafan~a or Zarek Valentin at left back, remains to be seen.

Foster Langsdorf seems to be struggling this year on T2, after having a good year last year.

Anybody else in TA looking like they might be worth gettin' paid to play?

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What about Marco Farfan?

So 1..............

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What is this thread about ?

Do the Timbers have home grown players, yes
Do the alliance clubs send players to the DA who sign in MLS, yes
Is it a ton of players, no
Do all OYSA clubs send players to college, yes
For many many years
Do many Establish OYSA competitive club have rec clubs, yes

Sounds like it works.

Interesting to note, failing businesses can say the same thing.if you understand what I'm saying maybe you'll revise your response.
If not, oh well.

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So 1..............

The timbers have signed more than one home grown into T2 and MLS. Several academy kids get on the T2 roster from time to time.

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So 1..............

Two so far have gotten first team contracts (Farfan and Langsdorf).

Langsdorf has not broken onto the first team, however, and seems to have regressed this season on T2.

Farfan is seeing more first team minutes, and opposing right wings' eyes no longer light up in eager anticipation when he strolls onto the pitch--in other words, he's becoming a serviceable MLS player.

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Two so far have gotten first team contracts (Farfan and Langsdorf).

Langsdorf has not broken onto the first team, however, and seems to have regressed this season on T2.

Farfan is seeing more first team minutes, and opposing right wings' eyes no longer light up in eager anticipation when he strolls onto the pitch--in other words, he's becoming a serviceable MLS player.

So, with the MLS being one of the lowest leagues globally what does that tell you about the training and program?
What's their pool size locally?

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After watching the Timbers for the last few years one can't help but notice the lack of Oregon youth in the 1st team. Why is that? Are the Timbers admitting, quietly, they have no talent to pull from or that the talent is always better from outside Oregon?

Should clubs really be aligned with an MLS squad that can't manage player quality within their own ranks?

Looking at the Timbers Roster, it's unfair to expect more players from the Northwest to play for the Timbers 1st team. Statistically, it doesn't make sense. There are 27 players on the Timbers roster at this moment. Of the 27 players listed, only 7 are from the United States. 3 of those 7 players are goalkeepers. 2 of the 4 players remaining are homegrown (Farfan & Langsdorf). Clearly, the Timbers place a bigger emphasis on players not only from outside Oregon, but more-so outside the United States.

There's no denying that there are only a couple home grown players who have gone on to compete with the Timbers first team, but it's inaccurate to say that the talent here in Oregon isn't great. There are several successful players who have come from the Portland area who have gone on to compete professionally, just not with the Timbers.

Should clubs be affiliated with the Timbers? I'm indifferent, but I don't see the harm. I think it would be great for my kid to sport a Timbers Academy jersey.

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Don't understand the thread

So, with the MLS being one of the lowest leagues globally what does that tell you about the training and program?
What's their pool size locally?

I am not understanding the thread.

First the Timbers DA and Timbers Alliance are very separate.

While the Timbers DA's main goal is to create players for the first team they do that at their pleasure. The main goal of the alliance programs (from a next level goal) is to develop players for college. They and all the OYSA clubs do a very good job of that. Clubs in Oregon Youth Soccer are part of the child's development into adulthood using soccer to teach life lessons. This combined with an college education allow the person to become whatever they choose.

Oregon Youth Soccer Clubs have produced pro players for sure, even before there was an MLS franchise, and have produced several times more leaders in other professions.

This why there are standards, the mission is much larger that producing Timbers first team players, it is helping developing kids.

As someone who has chosen to make soccer part of my child's development I have to look very hard at the organization and staff to make sure they can meet my expectations as a parent.

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Statistically it doesn't make sense? Based on what outline?
Data is simply there...connecting the dots is not difficult. Data tells a story and the story is easy to see currently whether it makes sense to you or not. What one just stated was....Oregon produces a lot but it can't be seen ....???
In fact it is easy to see...Oregon is missing the mark.
That should tell you something about alliances and quality per cost.

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What data

Statistically it doesn't make sense? Based on what outline?
Data is simply there...connecting the dots is not difficult. Data tells a story and the story is easy to see currently whether it makes sense to you or not. What one just stated was....Oregon produces a lot but it can't be seen ....???
In fact it is easy to see...Oregon is missing the mark.
That should tell you something about alliances and quality per cost.

Players sent to the Timbers 1st team or players sent to colleges ?

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Statistically it doesn't make sense? Based on what outline?
Data is simply there...connecting the dots is not difficult. Data tells a story and the story is easy to see currently whether it makes sense to you or not. What one just stated was....Oregon produces a lot but it can't be seen ....???
In fact it is easy to see...Oregon is missing the mark.
That should tell you something about alliances and quality per cost.

Could someone please explain this word salad?

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Could someone please explain this word salad?

I think it means is it's all a joke. It's all a scam. Soccer in America is broken and run by clowns and used car salesmen. All things everyone already knows. Except for those selling it.

If you're kid is the next Messi, you shouldn't have to pay for it.

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I think it means is it's all a joke. It's all a scam. Soccer in America is broken and run by clowns and used car salesmen. All things everyone already knows. Except for those selling it.

If you're kid is the next Messi, you shouldn't have to pay for it.

Following that logic, realistically, nobody's kid is the next Messi, so everybody should have to pay for it...