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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Is Eugene 00 > Copa 00? We’ll soon find out. Didn’t Copa 99s beat Eugene 99s?
    Both clubs 00 teams are a ghost of what their 99 teams were. And neither can get within 3 goals of Salmon creek.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Only change:

      00 Salmon Creek beats Eugene (no more 01 team)
      01 CFC beats Crossfire
      What happened to all the 01 teams? Going to be a dismal u18 division in Oysa again. U19 won’t be much better except for Salmon Creek.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        What happened to all the 01 teams? Going to be a dismal u18 division in Oysa again. U19 won’t be much better except for Salmon Creek.
        The 01 teams are doing what they are supposed to do - merge with the 00’s their final year. Next year it’ll be merged 01/02 teams and the 02 group will be weak. It works except for a few holdouts like Salem’s 01’s and Vancouver’s 02’s. Both of those teams are skilled enough to play up a year anyway. Vancouver did last year but Salem seems reluctant for whatever reason. Either way it’s a cakewalk to the state cup podium for Salem because their biggest competition the last two years is gone.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          The 01 teams are doing what they are supposed to do - merge with the 00’s their final year. Next year it’ll be merged 01/02 teams and the 02 group will be weak. It works except for a few holdouts like Salem’s 01’s and Vancouver’s 02’s. Both of those teams are skilled enough to play up a year anyway. Vancouver did last year but Salem seems reluctant for whatever reason. Either way it’s a cakewalk to the state cup podium for Salem because their biggest competition the last two years is gone.
          Salem was smart to stay together as 01/02s all this time. Now they’re already merged back together for next year. Smart. Birth year for neighborhood clubs is stupid. Our club lost lots of players with all the breaking up, merging back up, and 1/3 of 8th graders with no team every year. Thanks US Soccer.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Salem was smart to stay together as 01/02s all this time. Now they’re already merged back together for next year. Smart. Birth year for neighborhood clubs is stupid. Our club lost lots of players with all the breaking up, merging back up, and 1/3 of 8th graders with no team every year. Thanks US Soccer.
            Salem wasn’t smart. They sacrificed the 00 and 02 teams to appease a few 01 parents (most who immediately quit and went to thorns academy anyway).

            I totally agree that birth year is foolish and really hurts the u18-19 years. But Salem’s solution wasn’t what was best for their entire club. Eugene did the same thing with their 99 team and shafted their 00’s and 01s in the process.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Salmon Creek beats thorns da
              Thorns beats CU Ecnl
              Vancouver beats CU Ecnl
              GPS beats CU Ecnl
              Eastside beats Vancouver
              CU Ecnl beats United PdX
              Vancouver beats Cfc
              GPS beats CU ECNL ?
              With bunch of rec players?, not.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                GPS beats CU ECNL ?
                With bunch of rec players?, not.
                GPS beats cu Ecnl 9/10

                No question.

                The entire cu club is operating on illusion.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  GPS beats cu Ecnl 9/10

                  No question.

                  The entire cu club is operating on illusion.
                  This is a thread about teams that will do OYSA winter league and state cup. Nobody cares about your GPS/ECNL/GDA p*ss*ng match. Stop trying to be relevant.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Salem wasn’t smart. They sacrificed the 00 and 02 teams to appease a few 01 parents (most who immediately quit and went to thorns academy anyway).

                    I totally agree that birth year is foolish and really hurts the u18-19 years. But Salem’s solution wasn’t what was best for their entire club. Eugene did the same thing with their 99 team and shafted their 00’s and 01s in the process.
                    Salem shafted their 03 team too but the 01 team went with team chemistry and not letting US Soccer break apart a very good team for no good reason. If the major majority 02 parents had wanted to make a super team, they would have gone birth year because the 2002 group would’ve been much stronger than even the ***c02 team. The Salem 02s would be in a better soccer place if they had but that would’ve meant shafting their 01 team mates and best friends. Either way many players and teams were getting shafted by the birth year change. I can’t blame them for the choice to stay together. They made the choice they wanted because they are still together and will go seemlessly into this year and next. Yes, it shafted everyone else in the club but that’s the Director’s fault for allowing them to have the choice. If an adult goes into a store with 5 hungry children, gives a 20 dollar bill to just one child and let’s that one child get and eat whatever they want and tells them they don’t need to share, it’s not the child’s fault that they bought 20$ worth of candy & pop and ate it all till they were sick & left all the other children hungry. That’s why clubs have directors. Directors are supposed to help all the players and teams, not just one favored son. Don’t blame the 01 team for trying to look out for their own little family.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      GPS beats CU ECNL ?
                      With bunch of rec players?, not.
                      Going to NC this weekend to play in USYS National League is hardly rec level, for any club involved in that league.
                      Curious, why do you think they are rec players?

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Going to NC this weekend to play in USYS National League is hardly rec level, for any club involved in that league.
                        Curious, why do you think they are rec players?
                        They don’t. Are you that gullible? They’ve always hated gps. Cu Ecnl is weak in a weak league and wouldn’t last 2 games in the USYS national league.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Salem shafted their 03 team too but the 01 team went with team chemistry and not letting US Soccer break apart a very good team for no good reason. If the major majority 02 parents had wanted to make a super team, they would have gone birth year because the 2002 group would’ve been much stronger than even the ***c02 team. The Salem 02s would be in a better soccer place if they had but that would’ve meant shafting their 01 team mates and best friends. Either way many players and teams were getting shafted by the birth year change. I can’t blame them for the choice to stay together. They made the choice they wanted because they are still together and will go seemlessly into this year and next. Yes, it shafted everyone else in the club but that’s the Director’s fault for allowing them to have the choice. If an adult goes into a store with 5 hungry children, gives a 20 dollar bill to just one child and let’s that one child get and eat whatever they want and tells them they don’t need to share, it’s not the child’s fault that they bought 20$ worth of candy & pop and ate it all till they were sick & left all the other children hungry. That’s why clubs have directors. Directors are supposed to help all the players and teams, not just one favored son. Don’t blame the 01 team for trying to look out for their own little family.
                          It's completely the DOC's fault in Salem. The DOC is supposed to look at what's best for the entire club and make decisions based on that. Salem's DOC allowed the success of one team and the wishes of that team's parents to adversely effect years of teams on the girls side.

                          Eugene is even worse because the DOC coached the 99 team, which benefited greatly from his decision not to split them into birth years. It backfired the last two years when Westside knocked them off in state cup. But along the way he completely decimated the 00 and 01 age groups, weekend the 02 group, and earned a ton of animosity. Almost every top 00, 01, and 02 girl in Eugene has either quit soccer or is playing in Portland. The few good players that are left (and it's very few) are there only for financial or logistical reasons (not everyone can do a drive to Portland on a regular basis). And strangely enough, the first team in their club that went full birth year from the start and didn't give any players to the next older team is coached by...you guessed it...the club's DOC. His teams benefited on both sides of the birth year fiasco. That's why we left Eugene - DOC caring more about his teams than what's best for the entire club.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            This is a thread about teams that will do OYSA winter league and state cup. Nobody cares about your GPS/ECNL/GDA p*ss*ng match. Stop trying to be relevant.
                            I'm sure the Crossfire United 06 team will compete in State Cup. They're good. Came in second in the 05 fall premier bracket.

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                              #29
                              Can see the Eugene director selfishly helping his own teams but where was the motivation for the Salem director? Does the Salem director coach the 01s?

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Can see the Eugene director selfishly helping his own teams but where was the motivation for the Salem director? Does the Salem director coach the 01s?
                                No. But the former 01 Salem coach was a powerful guy in the club.

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