Reign FC moving to Tacoma. What happens to Reign Academy?

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After watching a comparison this weekend between both leagues, there is a very clear difference. DA has superior players/athletes at most positions without question. The ECNL is the best of remaining. This also includes the coaches as well as they struggled to provide direction to their teams.

As you read the thread and anticipating next year, the players who are ECNL (really B/C players) there will be multiple threads about how bad things are for their D/D, that the clubs don't know what is going on, and how things are screwed up. Bottom line, there is always players better and they are in a higher league.

True story, bro...

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After watching a comparison this weekend between both leagues, there is a very clear difference. DA has superior players/athletes at most positions without question. The ECNL is the best of remaining. This also includes the coaches as well as they struggled to provide direction to their teams.

As you read the thread and anticipating next year, the players who are ECNL (really B/C players) there will be multiple threads about how bad things are for their D/D, that the clubs don't know what is going on, and how things are screwed up. Bottom line, there is always players better and they are in a higher league.

Bad weekend huh, Chief? Smoke a bowl and relax those clenched jaws.
If your dd was part of the Crossfire ECNL pre-DA or SU ECNL pre-DA, then
you would be realize that everything has changed, for the best or the worst.

Think of this as a numbers game. It used to be about 36 (18 per club) girls per age group
for ECNL "top" talent with XF and WPFC for many years with great results.
I can only guess that there were parents piss3d off when their dd couldn't make
an ECNL team. Notice a similar kind of gripping from you.

Then, SU got an ECNL team. So, it was up to 54 girls per age group.
You could start seeing cracks when SU girls didn't go to XF anymore.
Then, the USSA decided to pick a fight with ECNL. Now, you had 4 elite
teams: SU/EFC-DA, XF-DA and ECNL, and WPFC-ENCL. Now up to 72 girls.

Last year, ECNL decided to unleash the hounds and gave an
ECNL to SU, Pacnw while Reign had EFC and XF had ECNL and DA.
We are up to 6 elite teams, SU, Pacnw, Reign, XF-ECNL and DA, and WPFC.
So were up to 108 girls. This is where you are gripping about. They have
tripled the number of girls within 3 years. Where did they find 72 additional
high level girls hiding in the background? Next year, it is still 108 girls
with Reign DA, XF, SU, EFC, WPFC, and Pacnw - ECNL.

So here is where you get to wear the big parent pants, Smokie.
You can decide if this is an opportunity for your kid to be developed in a
competitive environment or a waste of time and money. Here is the key
point for those kids who have real talent and skills. My little Mia parents need not apply.
What you are seeing is an obvious talent shortage. If your kid has true talent
and skills, then she can go anywhere. Now, with so many clubs looking for
talent, they have to offer the best training, coaches, facilities, etc for these
players. Frame is as a job market where talent is needed badly.
The decision is in your hands and you have to do your homework.

If you are dd isn't one of those talent girls, then you can decide if she can
developed and if it is worth your time and money. Best idea is to go to the
club who can attract the better players. Good luck all.

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Bad weekend huh, Chief? Smoke a bowl and relax those clenched jaws.
If your dd was part of the Crossfire ECNL pre-DA or SU ECNL pre-DA, then
you would be realize that everything has changed, for the best or the worst.

Think of this as a numbers game. It used to be about 36 (18 per club) girls per age group
for ECNL "top" talent with XF and WPFC for many years with great results.
I can only guess that there were parents piss3d off when their dd couldn't make
an ECNL team. Notice a similar kind of gripping from you.

Then, SU got an ECNL team. So, it was up to 54 girls per age group.
You could start seeing cracks when SU girls didn't go to XF anymore.
Then, the USSA decided to pick a fight with ECNL. Now, you had 4 elite
teams: SU/EFC-DA, XF-DA and ECNL, and WPFC-ENCL. Now up to 72 girls.

Last year, ECNL decided to unleash the hounds and gave an
ECNL to SU, Pacnw while Reign had EFC and XF had ECNL and DA.
We are up to 6 elite teams, SU, Pacnw, Reign, XF-ECNL and DA, and WPFC.
So were up to 108 girls. This is where you are gripping about. They have
tripled the number of girls within 3 years. Where did they find 72 additional
high level girls hiding in the background? Next year, it is still 108 girls
with Reign DA, XF, SU, EFC, WPFC, and Pacnw - ECNL.

So here is where you get to wear the big parent pants, Smokie.
You can decide if this is an opportunity for your kid to be developed in a
competitive environment or a waste of time and money. Here is the key
point for those kids who have real talent and skills. My little Mia parents need not apply.
What you are seeing is an obvious talent shortage. If your kid has true talent
and skills, then she can go anywhere. Now, with so many clubs looking for
talent, they have to offer the best training, coaches, facilities, etc for these
players. Frame is as a job market where talent is needed badly.
The decision is in your hands and you have to do your homework.

If you are dd isn't one of those talent girls, then you can decide if she can
developed and if it is worth your time and money. Best idea is to go to the
club who can attract the better players. Good luck all.

Truer Story Bro.....Preach!

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Truer Story Bro.....Preach!

ECNL , Da , Rcl ,npsl pspl . It don’t mean a thing if you are not in the top 20
Players in that club you have absolutely no chance . You are just there to pay the bills . End of ! .

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Yes you are right . If the team was made from non paying players . The minute it becomes pay to play you should not be putting up with that . You are playing for the best ‘pay to play ‘ team around , if you ain’t playing you shouldn’t be paying ! The whole concept of pay to play has already taken away the reward of playing because you are the best around , you are playing simply because you are paying .

You are paying for the training and paying for the travel. Coaches cost money. Travel cost money. Field rental cost money. Did you expect people to do this all for free??

You need to earn your minutes on the field.

You should be working harder to get better if you are not getting your desired minutes.

If earning playing time is unrealistic then you are right and you should probably do something different.

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;2458522]You are paying for the training and paying for the travel. Coaches cost money. Travel cost money. Field rental cost money. Did you expect people to do this all for free??

In no other country on earth would a youth coach earn a decent income coaching upper crust kids to run around cones for 6 hours a week and then play 10 minutes of a game ! The game is the bread and butter not the dancing around cones ! Some kids are out and out trainers others are game players , but you would never know if they never get on the field would you ?

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You are paying for the training and paying for the travel. Coaches cost money. Travel cost money. Field rental cost money. Did you expect people to do this all for free??

In no other country on earth would a youth coach earn a decent income coaching upper crust kids to run around cones for 6 hours a week and then play 10 minutes of a game ! The game is the bread and butter not the dancing around cones ! Some kids are out and out trainers others are game players , but you would never know if they never get on the field would you ?

Equal pay doesn’t mean equal play.

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Equal pay doesn’t mean equal play.

No you are right , what idiot would demand the same product for the same price .....

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If anyone knows of a high level pay-to-play team giving equal playing time please do tell. My kid will be at tryouts and I’ll be there with my checkbook.

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Curious why players are leaving Xfire to come to the reign. Must be a bad day smoking a bowl as referenced above.

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If anyone knows of a high level pay-to-play team giving equal playing time please do tell. My kid will be at tryouts and I’ll be there with my checkbook.

I don’t think you would get much luck with that . When you have people handing over money for their kid to play on the 2nd or 3rd team of one of the big pay to play clubs they have already lost any real common sense .

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No you are right , what idiot would demand the same product for the same price .....

What idiot would sign up for a calculus class when they can barely pass Algebra?

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These angry posters must be mostly ulittle parents, like U10-U13.
Look soccer moms and dads, figure out what works for your kid
and what she wants to do. I know this will fall on deaf ears b/c
most parents do not want to hear the truth. It's ok since everything
will be known by U15. Puberty, genetics, boys, school, other activities,
will put things into reality, no matter what you think or do.

Around 6% out of 400,000 hs age soccer girls will be in D1-3 soccer.
2% will play D1, out of that we are talking about 200 girls for the
top 25 D1 schools. On top of having top academic grades and test scores.

Folks are asking hella of lot out our of dd. So, relax about it. Most
girls will not play in college. It's ok. Enjoy the ride. Find the team that
where she can play all of the time or the coach believes everyone plays.
Make it fun and enjoy the moment b/c she will be gone very, very soon.
Don't be too harsh on the ulittle parents b/c they got GSDS
Girl Soccer Derangement Syndrome. Only cure is time. Good luck.

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Equal pay doesn’t mean equal play.

No parent who has been around soccer for any length of time expects equal play. However, coaches are human. They can develop biases, favorites etc. A program committed to the development of all players finds ways to ensure that all players get that critical game experience, either through friendlies, guest play with other teams, or a reasonable approach to playing time. Youth coaches also face pressure to win, so why bother developing everyone when you can just rely on your favorites?

Many commenters are leaning toward "work harder, earn your spot" and yes, that is a critical part of sports. But this is youth sports, ostensily about LEARNING and DEVELOPING, but growth is smothered by the "need" to win, even at the youngest ages. I have kids who currently play/have played soccer at the highest level in WA and over the years all have encountered coaches who belittled them & demeaned their abilities. They've swung from being every minute of every game players to benchwarmers and back to every minute, depending on the coach.

Soccer is far from a pure meritocracy. Yes, athletes are responsible for working to earn playing time and that's part of what they're learning in the youth game, but parents tend not to care how a coach treats other players so long as their kid is the favorite/starter. I'd like to see coaches held to a higher standard that prized the development of all players but that rarely happens.

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What idiot would sign up for a calculus class when they can barely pass Algebra?

What idiot would pay for that calculus class if they are not capable of doing algebra ?