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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    It really is ridiculous - imagine the money being spent for all those teams to travel to nationals, and many of those teams don't stand a chance. Better to lose within driving distance. Prove yourself there against more worthy opponents then move on to nationals.
    Just the way US Club Soccer does things. ECNL works pretty much the same way except every one has to make the trip even the ones that haven't won a blessed thing nor have a snow balls chance in hell of winning a championship.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      It really is ridiculous - imagine the money being spent for all those teams to travel to nationals, and many of those teams don't stand a chance. Better to lose within driving distance. Prove yourself there against more worthy opponents then move on to nationals.
      I wonder how much of a kickback NEP is getting from the US National Cup organizers. Think of all of the extra money being spent on sponsor hotels and concession and retail stands now that all states qualify automatically.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Its called a State Cup, so individual state champions. Maybe some day they will have a New England Cup.
        They already have just not anymore.
        Best for business everyone wins.
        https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...uKFnI/pubhtml#

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Best for business everyone wins.
          That's for sure - I don't know what age it starts at if it's U12-U18 (and assume that every state participates and sends the maximum number)

          7 teams/general X 2 genders =
          14 teams per state x 50 states =
          700 teams X 16 players/team = 11,200 players

          Even if it were half of that, businesses and hotels in CO will still see a very nice revenue bump that weekend

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            #20
            Sorry for the confusion (given all the different leagues and "State Cups it isn't to keep track of it all) but this shows there are regional playoffs? But teams are going straight through?

            http://usclubsoccer.org/programs/cup...-national-cup/

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              #21
              NEP teams decided to ditch regionals this year, they did it last year. Most other regions still have regionals, so there will not be a million teams in Colorado.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Sorry for the confusion (given all the different leagues and "State Cups it isn't to keep track of it all) but this shows there are regional playoffs? But teams are going straight through?

                http://usclubsoccer.org/programs/cup...-national-cup/
                For some insane reason the New England Region is the ONLY ONE who has decided to scrap the regional format and send teams directly to Nationals. It's ridiculous, and makes no sense. And now I have to go to Colorado to watch my kids team get beaten by 6 goals.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  For some insane reason the New England Region is the ONLY ONE who has decided to scrap the regional format and send teams directly to Nationals. It's ridiculous, and makes no sense. And now I have to go to Colorado to watch my kids team get beaten by 6 goals.
                  No, you don't have to go!

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    For some insane reason the New England Region is the ONLY ONE who has decided to scrap the regional format and send teams directly to Nationals. It's ridiculous, and makes no sense. And now I have to go to Colorado to watch my kids team get beaten by 6 goals.
                    Doesn't make any sense - especially since with geography it would be one of the easiest/cheapest to travel to while going to CO the most expensive.

                    I wonder how many teams will really go? I have to believe there are plenty on any team that don't want to and/or can't afford it. And many of the teams are getting entirely changed up because of the age change and mentally players are moving up.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      It really is ridiculous - imagine the money being spent for all those teams to travel to nationals, and many of those teams don't stand a chance. Better to lose within driving distance. Prove yourself there against more worthy opponents then move on to nationals.
                      Totally true! There are NEP teams outside of MA going to nationals that didn't even win their respective divisions in regular season. Not even a first or second place in NEP and you play for State cup - win 1 game and go to Nationals. Huh?

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Totally true! There are NEP teams outside of MA going to nationals that didn't even win their respective divisions in regular season. Not even a first or second place in NEP and you play for State cup - win 1 game and go to Nationals. Huh?
                        National Cup Finals is a different tournament than the NPL National Finals for the league winners. The former is a cup tournament, so its based on tourney results, not a full season. The latter is based on full year performance and is held a week earlier.

                        Who cares if some states have a lesser challenge to get to the National Cup than others? That has always been true of state cup regional and national tournaments (whoever is sponsoring them)? The early round matches will have some lopsided results, and in the end, the best teams are the most likely to prevail. And if heavy underdog teams want to pay to attend, what difference does it make?

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          NEP teams decided to ditch regionals this year, they did it last year. Most other regions still have regionals, so there will not be a million teams in Colorado.
                          Is that because they felt there would not be good enough competition for them?

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Is that because they felt there would not be good enough competition for them?
                            Is this a legitimate question? You must have a kid on one of the teams going to CO. Good luck with that buddy

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Is that because they felt there would not be good enough competition for them?
                              So NEP didn't have New England champion tournament because they felt the competition in there own league was not strong.
                              Ok just go Colorado.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                So NEP didn't have New England champion tournament because they felt the competition in there own league was not strong.
                                Ok just go Colorado.
                                Yes, because they don't have any elite teams. They are only premier.

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