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#1 Those posts are about boys, not girls, which is the focus of this forum.
#2 I get going overseas for top-end boys, but do folks really still recommend college soccer as a pathway to the pros for boys?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post#1 Those posts are about boys, not girls, which is the focus of this forum.
#2 I get going overseas for top-end boys, but do folks really still recommend college soccer as a pathway to the pros for boys?
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If your pathway to the pros goes through college, then either a) you really care about college (and I mean the education part, not the soccer part), or b) you're second tier.
The late-teen and early 20 years are when the top pro leagues are training prospects to be professionals, and when much of the weeding out occurs. Someone who plays four years at Akron (sorry, Nagbe) or Stanford (apologies, Jordan) may be good enough to do well in MLS, and even play for the USMNT, but will be far from a world-class player.
That said, the number of world-class field players the US has produced can be counted on one finger. And he's playing for a Bundesliga first team at age 19, not f***ing around in college.
But for some, college might be the best career path.
According to the quoted thread, though, Bruce Arena neglected the Galaxy's academy program. It's interesting--apparently the best MLS academy in SoCal belongs to LAFC, and their first team has yet to play a match....
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostFor #2, much of the MLS draft comes from college players. so for now, yes, college is a pathway to the pros for boys. plus, most kids will get more out of college than any pro opportunity.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post#1 Those posts are about boys, not girls, which is the focus of this forum.
#2 I get going overseas for top-end boys, but do folks really still recommend college soccer as a pathway to the pros for boys?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostReally college soccer is like HS soccer on steroids; coaches are about wins, not development. But the reality is rookie pay is a joke in the MLS and if a college program is dangling a nice scholly in front of you then you're probably going to take it. College just costs too much these days for most players to walk away from that. Meanwhile internationally players 18-22 are playing professionally while ours muck about in college stadiums. IT's one of many reasons why we're making very little progress in the world arena.
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Unless your child is offered a "huge" contract at the age of 18, college should be their priority (Student Athlete).
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostEverything you say may be true but it doesn't change the fact that our best players are playing college soccer... except for that 1 in a million kid who may skip and go pro. There's a lot to like about getting a college education with some help from soccer. Not completely sure on this, but I think I prefer college + soccer for my kid.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostOr maybe a job as a plumber or electrician. Most of those make way more money than the average college graduate.
Massive plumbing issues at our house = I'm pretty sure I paid the college tuition bill for my plumber's kid
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This whole thread misses the point of development and pro v college. If you're at a time where college is a choice, the top pro opportunity has likely already been lost. It's not ages 18-22 where we're losing ground it's 15-18 when all these kids who make the academy teams should be playing at a higher level and fighting for spots against older ad better competition. At the top clubs, the U17s and below are where the action is. By the time they get older than that, the ones who are going to make it already have. The rest soldier on hoping for one last chance. They really should consider going to college. The chances of making it as a pro are probably about the same. If they can use soccer to pay for college they should, because that will be a bigger benefit.
For what it's worth though, a Timbers Academy player was just named the PAC 12 Player of the year after being the co-player of the year last year. Hopefully he can play professionally, but if he can't, that degree from Stanford will probably come in handy. Congrats Foster.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThis whole thread misses the point of development and pro v college. If you're at a time where college is a choice, the top pro opportunity has likely already been lost. It's not ages 18-22 where we're losing ground it's 15-18 when all these kids who make the academy teams should be playing at a higher level and fighting for spots against older ad better competition. At the top clubs, the U17s and below are where the action is. By the time they get older than that, the ones who are going to make it already have. The rest soldier on hoping for one last chance. They really should consider going to college. The chances of making it as a pro are probably about the same. If they can use soccer to pay for college they should, because that will be a bigger benefit.
For what it's worth though, a Timbers Academy player was just named the PAC 12 Player of the year after being the co-player of the year last year. Hopefully he can play professionally, but if he can't, that degree from Stanford will probably come in handy. Congrats Foster.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThis whole thread misses the point of development and pro v college. If you're at a time where college is a choice, the top pro opportunity has likely already been lost. It's not ages 18-22 where we're losing ground it's 15-18 when all these kids who make the academy teams should be playing at a higher level and fighting for spots against older ad better competition. At the top clubs, the U17s and below are where the action is. By the time they get older than that, the ones who are going to make it already have. The rest soldier on hoping for one last chance. They really should consider going to college. The chances of making it as a pro are probably about the same. If they can use soccer to pay for college they should, because that will be a bigger benefit.
For what it's worth though, a Timbers Academy player was just named the PAC 12 Player of the year after being the co-player of the year last year. Hopefully he can play professionally, but if he can't, that degree from Stanford will probably come in handy. Congrats Foster.
Congrats to him an his family.
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