Girls HS needs 4 divisions

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How do kids get named to all state or projo? Is it based on sports writers, or opposing coaches, or simply who their own coaches want to nominate? All division must be based on their own coaches since over 50 kids made each division list, with multiple from each team. (Chances are if you go 1-15 you do not have multiple all division kids!!!!)

Coaches nominate kids at the annual coaches meeting in November. Nominations are made for NSCAA All-America, All-Region, All-State as well as RIIL All-Division. Most coach nominations are made for kids on their own team. Sometimes a coach will nominate a kid from another team, though this is rare since they usually want to fight for their own players. If your kid's coach doesn't nominate your kid, your kid is pretty much SOL.

Slots for NSCAA All-America and All-Region are based on a per-state quota system, meaning, RI has a relatively small number of NSCAA member coaches so RI usually can only allocate a limited number of players to All-America or All-Region. Bigger states get bigger allocations of slots. Yes, a better player from RI may lose out on All-America to a lesser player from a big state like NY which has more state slots to allocate.

All-Division slots are allocated based on what place a team finished during the regular season.

Once all of these "All-whatever" teams are selected, the coaches send to the Projo the lists. The Projo can make changes to the coaches' All State to team their published All-State team if they want. But the Projo usually just goes along with whatever the coaches submit with maybe 1 change.

It's very subjective. If a coach likes a certain kid for whatever reason, they can nominate and push for that kid.

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The best goalie in the state plays forward for her high school team. Go figure that.

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How do kids get named to all state or projo? Is it based on sports writers, or opposing coaches, or simply who their own coaches want to nominate? All division must be based on their own coaches since over 50 kids made each division list, with multiple from each team. (Chances are if you go 1-15 you do not have multiple all division kids!!!!)

Ah..let's not forget the fact adults find a way to squeeze the might dollar..you have to be a dues paying member of NSCAA to nominate a player..and a dues paying member of the shadowy RIGSCA to put your list..and then you're allowed a seat to horsetrade depending on your record..

Sure, some players in lower divisions could play on D1 teams..but in terms of having the same or even remotely close level of impact..look at the top teams in D3..majority of goals are unassisted because the few star players can take it around the thin defenses as noted in earlier post..not happening in D that's why the stat padding coaches are fooling themselves to think it will bring more than a 3rd team nod on all-state (ask Rogers HS from a few years ago)..maybe a D2 gets a rare 1st team for a special talent (and how did that work out when the team moved up to D1)..

Not the kids' fault for sure..and I suppose the players have the mentality if the coach is going to keep them in the game to score..but don't fool yourself the best player in the state is stuck in D3..if they are the best, they are either in a D1 school or LSA would have signed up...those few kids could play D1, but you wouldn't find them with double digit GS either..

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true that high school d1 can usually squash a singular talent, but that doesn't change the fact that an individual may be talent worthy of d1 college, let alone high school.

quality premier players are not recruited based upon size of town, and RI certainly has many of their best players in D2, and some in D3.

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true that high school d1 can usually squash a singular talent, but that doesn't change the fact that an individual may be talent worthy of d1 college, let alone high school.

quality premier players are not recruited based upon size of town, and RI certainly has many of their best players in D2, and some in D3.

True, you can name a couple who were in D2 (or in D2 part of their time) and now playing D1 college; I think the point was that you can't look at the exaggerated stats in D3 and D2 and project them to be impact players at D1. Nothing on the players, it's more a few coaches (and ADs) who run it up or don't move up when they should -- and the bad realignment process in RIIL - which is driven more by the greed/laziness to play 15-16 games instead of a more balanced/manageable/competitive 12 team divisions.

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Classless town. When they announce how many goals she has in her career during a game, you knwo you are dealing with nitwits.

Portsmouth has been doing this for years.

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There is no question that one of the earlier posts is correct, that D2 simply doesn't have the volume of players to draw enough for being competitive with our girls in D1. However, it is foolish and naive to think that many players, particularly in D2, are not better than many of those in D1. Other than a school like Lasalle that flat out recruits top notch players, nobody should think that the best players are somehow locked within the borders of towns with large populations whose only claim for being D1 is a large population base.

After watching my kids in D1 for years I have seen several D2 games this year, and schools like Scituate, Burrillville and Chariho undoubtedly have players who can beat out starters on even some top D1 schools. As a team, however, they would struggle to be .500.

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There is no question that one of the earlier posts is correct, that D2 simply doesn't have the volume of players to draw enough for being competitive with our girls in D1. However, it is foolish and naive to think that many players, particularly in D2, are not better than many of those in D1. Other than a school like Lasalle that flat out recruits top notch players, nobody should think that the best players are somehow locked within the borders of towns with large populations whose only claim for being D1 is a large population base.

After watching my kids in D1 for years I have seen several D2 games this year, and schools like Scituate, Burrillville and Chariho undoubtedly have players who can beat out starters on even some top D1 schools. As a team, however, they would struggle to be .500.

Pretty obvious this is true. Many D2 and D3 players are good enough to start for D1 teams. You see them all play together on their club teams in the spring. High school soccer is town soccer except for the private schools.

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Well put. The schools you mentioned for D2 have a couple of good talented underclassmen (fresh and soph) that are so much ahead of their peers that the other teammates/parents on't even realize it. Feel bad for them. In particular the Scit keeper is tremendous.

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I would love to see a few of those kids get a chance to play alongside some of the talent from the top 4-5 D1 schools in perhaps an all star showcase, kind of like they do in basketball at the end o the season.

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I would love to see a few of those kids get a chance to play alongside some of the talent from the top 4-5 D1 schools in perhaps an all star showcase, kind of like they do in basketball at the end o the season.

They already do. It’s called spring premier soccer. ECNL, NPL, etc.

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True to a point, but that is not as gratifying as being recognized amongst your peers/friends. As was said earlier, many of the peers and even some coaches have no clue who is the best and are influenced strictly by stats. After all, any of these kids who plays high school soccer is doing it since they likely have friends since U6! To be recognized as a standout still carries some level of importance, since let's face it, almost no RI kids go on to play at any significant level.

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Agreed. Good midfielders with great passing skills get little recognition in comparison to the leading goal scorers, even if the goals are simply toe balls!...and defenders get even less recognition

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True to a point, but that is not as gratifying as being recognized amongst your peers/friends. As was said earlier, many of the peers and even some coaches have no clue who is the best and are influenced strictly by stats. After all, any of these kids who plays high school soccer is doing it since they likely have friends since U6! To be recognized as a standout still carries some level of importance, since let's face it, almost no RI kids go on to play at any significant level.

If you know little knowledge about RI youth soccer, it is best you don’t share you commentary on this forum. MM, MKM and IA all made contributions at the YNT levels and will continue to play beyond their collegiate level. MP and NC went on to play at the professional level. Don’t minimize the contributions of the RI players.

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Excellent response...although the poster is misinformed about the RI successes, I do agree with their point that it is important to be recognized amongst their peers/friends/classmates, since most will not attain the levels of success you correctly pointed out. The "ignorant" casual observer (parents and ball hog players) only pays attention to goals scored with high school ball, and many of the quality players are overlooked for their contributions simply because they are not able to be capitalized on by supporting casts that are simply not capable.