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    The Youth League

    Anybody have any insight or opinions on the new NYCFC developmental youth league that they are calling The Youth League?

    #2
    Am a City fan and have been for a long, long time. Am unhappy with how NYCFC has begun, the whole Lampy thing and playing in a baseball stadium. However, I am confident City have the money to make this happen.

    Here's a link, http://www.empireofsoccer.com/ground...-league-32019/. I think this will be good for the boys, but unfortunately for TS, City are ignoring the girls's side (it's not a girls' sport over there).

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      #3
      It won't help the USMNT because this system will cater to those foreigners this forum often complains about. It should give some strong development, but whether it is better than DAP remains to be seen. Girls have no place in soccer, so ignoring them is the right thing to do.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        It won't help the USMNT because this system will cater to those foreigners this forum often complains about. It should give some strong development, but whether it is better than DAP remains to be seen. Girls have no place in soccer, so ignoring them is the right thing to do.
        Sounds like the OW elitist from the DAP thread. How do you OW girls parents like being represented by this jerk? Go Oakwood.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          It won't help the USMNT because this system will cater to those foreigners this forum often complains about. It should give some strong development, but whether it is better than DAP remains to be seen. Girls have no place in soccer, so ignoring them is the right thing to do.
          Hey genius, it's not competing with DAP. All MLS teams HAVE TO field Academy teams. This league is for boy's teams, u11, u10, u9. These are the years preceding Academy (u12 Acedemy starts fall 2016). Read the damn article!

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            #6
            Why compare to DAP?

            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            It won't help the USMNT because this system will cater to those foreigners this forum often complains about. It should give some strong development, but whether it is better than DAP remains to be seen. Girls have no place in soccer, so ignoring them is the right thing to do.
            I think you need to read about the program before you comment on it. You can't compare it to DAP - it's U9-U11. DAP doesn't being until U13 currently and U12 in fall 2016. This is just feeder program for the affiliate clubs, most of which have some or all of the DAP age groups, and likely NYCFC's academy in the future.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              I think you need to read about the program before you comment on it. You can't compare it to DAP - it's U9-U11. DAP doesn't being until U13 currently and U12 in fall 2016. This is just feeder program for the affiliate clubs, most of which have some or all of the DAP age groups, and likely NYCFC's academy in the future.
              I hear NEP is starting a training wheel league catering to U5, U6, and U7s which was then trumped by a diaper and binky league for U2, U3, and U4s. In Utero league accepting applications for Fall 2016 too ..... fetuses should be in second or third trimester on August 1st, so plan your pregnancy schedules accordingly.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Anybody have any insight or opinions on the new NYCFC developmental youth league that they are calling The Youth League?
                This is great news. This model is used by several top European youth academies. They run these leagues to help keep focus on developments and keep tabs on area talent. Allows them to help guide area coaches/clubs to focus on things that help themin the long run develop talent. Lot easier to further develop talent that does not have a lot bad habits learned at prior club that has priorities that are inconsistent with long term development of players.

                Some may be skeptical but this seems like an sincere effort to help develop area talent. Lot better and more ambitious than Red Bulls and RDS.

                The for profit leauges EDP/MSSL, NYCSL, ECNL are created to market preimer soccer to parents and people running these leagues often pick profits growth of the leauge over development. What started out a solution to issues of state run leagues has become a huge cash cow at the expense of development.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  I think you need to read about the program before you comment on it. You can't compare it to DAP - it's U9-U11. DAP doesn't being until U13 currently and U12 in fall 2016. This is just feeder program for the affiliate clubs, most of which have some or all of the DAP age groups, and likely NYCFC's academy in the future.
                  DAP is about money like everything else. It will be U10 before you know it. Then what? Planning is not NYCFC's strength. Go Lampard!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    DAP is about money like everything else. It will be U10 before you know it. Then what? Planning is not NYCFC's strength. Go Lampard!
                    Wrong. If it were about money, they'd have implemented the girl's side already.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      DAP is about money like everything else. It will be U10 before you know it. Then what? Planning is not NYCFC's strength. Go Lampard!
                      Wrong.

                      USSF Development Academy (DA) league is not just about the money is clearly trying to develop the nations best talent. Is it perfect, No. Is it for every player, NO. Does it miss talent, Yes. But it's far better than anything now available or we have seen to date in the US.

                      USSF heavely funds this league. Registration fees are $8 per player. The league offers player scholarships. Clubs are strongly encouraged to have reduced fees or tuition free for the DA age teams.
                      Oakwood, NYSC are reduced. World class is tuition free. Westchester FC in reduced or free.

                      USSF cover travel expenses finals weeks for teams that make that far.

                      USSF covers Referees fees for the clubs for DA games.

                      Do the clubs that participate in the DA use the status of belonging that league to make money in other parts of there programs, 100% yes and for some the only reason they participate is they think it will help them make more money.

                      But with their DA level teams they have to play by USSF rules and this will help development and level the playing field. Might even open their eyes.

                      But there is no way they are making money of those players and family on those specific teams. The amount of coaching time and resources required is significant.


                      ENCL and DAP are night and day with respect to profit over development.

                      ENCL was created to me a marketing machine for the clubs that help formed it. It's hugely profitable for the league owners and their member clubs. They don't mandate development they mandate marketing strategies.

                      EDP, MAPS, MSSL is a hugely profitable venture. The NYCSL is following in the footsteps very profitable.

                      Do these leagues provide a better product than what was previously available most likely yes. Are they entitled to make a profit, yes.

                      BUT DA league is not same as all these other leagues its goals are very different.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Wrong.

                        USSF Development Academy (DA) league is not just about the money is clearly trying to develop the nations best talent. Is it perfect, No. Is it for every player, NO. Does it miss talent, Yes. But it's far better than anything now available or we have seen to date in the US.

                        USSF heavely funds this league. Registration fees are $8 per player. The league offers player scholarships. Clubs are strongly encouraged to have reduced fees or tuition free for the DA age teams.
                        Oakwood, NYSC are reduced. World class is tuition free. Westchester FC in reduced or free.

                        USSF cover travel expenses finals weeks for teams that make that far.

                        USSF covers Referees fees for the clubs for DA games.

                        Do the clubs that participate in the DA use the status of belonging that league to make money in other parts of there programs, 100% yes and for some the only reason they participate is they think it will help them make more money.

                        But with their DA level teams they have to play by USSF rules and this will help development and level the playing field. Might even open their eyes.

                        But there is no way they are making money of those players and family on those specific teams. The amount of coaching time and resources required is significant.

                        ENCL and DAP are night and day with respect to profit over development.

                        ENCL was created to me a marketing machine for the clubs that help formed it. It's hugely profitable for the league owners and their member clubs. They don't mandate development they mandate marketing strategies.

                        EDP, MAPS, MSSL is a hugely profitable venture. The NYCSL is following in the footsteps very profitable.

                        Do these leagues provide a better product than what was previously available most likely yes. Are they entitled to make a profit, yes.

                        BUT DA league is not same as all these other leagues its goals are very different.
                        finally someone with some sense

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          finally someone with some sense
                          Watch as the DAP age drops to 10 or 9 and then come back and admit your error.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Watch as the DAP age drops to 10 or 9 and then come back and admit your error.
                            Even if that were to happen, I still don't see forming league like this as an error. It's going to take year and half for them to add U12. Dropping down to U9, U10 and U11 will take much longer and just don't see it happening. But even if it were your talking 5-6 years down the road. Plenty of time for this league to make a impact.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Even if that were to happen, I still don't see forming league like this as an error. It's going to take year and half for them to add U12. Dropping down to U9, U10 and U11 will take much longer and just don't see it happening. But even if it were your talking 5-6 years down the road. Plenty of time for this league to make a impact.
                              And for those lamenting that we need a more European-like model to develop and train talent from an early age then wouldn't that fit the need? Can't have it both ways. Besides, as the other said these clubs aren't making any money on DAP (especially those with no tuition). Financially they'll reach a breaking point and I would expect pushback from the clubs to go any younger than 12.

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