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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostECNL is the a better league and better experience for the players. The kids can always drop to an EDP team, but it must be tough being on the outside looking in....but there isn’t anything wrong with EDP, it’s all about playing for fun.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI’ve been to these ECNL national events. There are tons of college coaches. Problem is the 75+ D1 coaches ain’t coming to the FC Bucks games at these events. They are at PDA, Slammers, Michigan and other top ECNL club games. Just like regular tournaments there is seeding at ECNL tournaments. Top teams play other top teams. Lower ranked teams play other lower ranked teams. Take a guess where the D1 college coaches are going to spend their time.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSerious question.
If ECNL is so great at Bucks - why do they have “mid year” tryouts every year at the club? They are literally begging for players with rosters om the teams less than 18. Think about it.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYeah, you would think they don’t come to see FC Bucks, but they do. It’s an old argument that is just proven with some pictures and attendance lists taken by managers handing out profiles. We easily pull 40 to 80 coaches a game at ECNL events. On a bad day, usually if scheduled late day on the last day, we still get 15-30 coaches. I’ll simplify for you. Take a look at college rosters and you will see the majority of those players are from ECNL and DA clubs, but they are from many different ECNL and DA clubs. Not just a few. Every D-I program is in attendance at ECNL events with multiple coaches. They see all the teams. Oh...I’m sure D-III programs are out seeing the EDP teams play....and that is a bonus for kids that just play to have fun and playing college soccer isn’t a goal or the entire team.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThat's better than paying for and playing for a patch that you perceive gives your superiority. If several non ecnl teams can beat you, what are you really playing (paying) for?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYeah, you would think they don’t come to see FC Bucks, but they do. It’s an old argument that is just proven with some pictures and attendance lists taken by managers handing out profiles. We easily pull 40 to 80 coaches a game at ECNL events. On a bad day, usually if scheduled late day on the last day, we still get 15-30 coaches. I’ll simplify for you. Take a look at college rosters and you will see the majority of those players are from ECNL and DA clubs, but they are from many different ECNL and DA clubs. Not just a few. Every D-I program is in attendance at ECNL events with multiple coaches. They see all the teams. Oh...I’m sure D-III programs are out seeing the EDP teams play....and that is a bonus for kids that just play to have fun and playing college soccer isn’t a goal or the entire team.
Look at FC Buck's college commitments. FC Bucks never had a ton of D1 commitments to begin with, but look specifically at the drop off of D1 commitments since Eddie Leigh passed away and the new DOC started running club into the ground. Now the only D1 school anyone from FC Bucks commits to is St. Joes - and guess who's wife is the coach at St. Joes - yep - the DOC at FC Bucks. And even at that, St. Joes is only taking 1-3 FC Bucks players a year - the top 1-3 players.
So if your the best player at FC Bucks, St. Joes is likely your only choice for D1, and even then it is a very small chance. The reality is, when it comes to D1 if your a top FC Bucks player, your chances for D1 is very likely worse than the worst player at PDA or any other top ECNL club.
Save your money. Play EDP. Invest savings from no ECNL. Target a few DII and DIII schools and have your kid attend their ID camps/clinics. Overall you end up at the same schools most FC Bucks players are ending up at, and you will have more money
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostD1 coaches are at these events. However, no D1 coaches are actually coming to FC Bucks games taking place at these events.
Look at FC Buck's college commitments. FC Bucks never had a ton of D1 commitments to begin with, but look specifically at the drop off of D1 commitments since Eddie Leigh passed away and the new DOC started running club into the ground. Now the only D1 school anyone from FC Bucks commits to is St. Joes - and guess who's wife is the coach at St. Joes - yep - the DOC at FC Bucks. And even at that, St. Joes is only taking 1-3 FC Bucks players a year - the top 1-3 players.
So if your the best player at FC Bucks, St. Joes is likely your only choice for D1, and even then it is a very small chance. The reality is, when it comes to D1 if your a top FC Bucks player, your chances for D1 is very likely worse than the worst player at PDA or any other top ECNL club.
Save your money. Play EDP. Invest savings from no ECNL. Target a few DII and DIII schools and have your kid attend their ID camps/clinics. Overall you end up at the same schools most FC Bucks players are ending up at, and you will have more money
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYeah, you would think they don’t come to see FC Bucks, but they do. It’s an old argument that is just proven with some pictures and attendance lists taken by managers handing out profiles. We easily pull 40 to 80 coaches a game at ECNL events. On a bad day, usually if scheduled late day on the last day, we still get 15-30 coaches. I’ll simplify for you. Take a look at college rosters and you will see the majority of those players are from ECNL and DA clubs, but they are from many different ECNL and DA clubs. Not just a few. Every D-I program is in attendance at ECNL events with multiple coaches. They see all the teams. Oh...I’m sure D-III programs are out seeing the EDP teams play....and that is a bonus for kids that just play to have fun and playing college soccer isn’t a goal or the entire team.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAnother newsflash ... they are coming to see the other team or they are leaving totally unimpressed. They certainly are not handing out schollies like halloween candy and nothing else matters. If your kids can't play, it dont matter ... conversely, if a kid can play any coach with any sense dont give a rat's ***** if they have a cute, colorful patch on their sleeve and wasted $50 grand on soccer over the past 5 or 6 years!
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postand EDP teams have no kids left after u15 because they leave for ECNL and ECNL R programs. Facts are the facts. Nothing wrong at all with playing EDP for kids that love the game and are playing just for fun.
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Nice to see the twats moved over to this page.
When was last time an EDP team beat an ECNL team at this age group? March '17 DEFC beat Bucks 3-2, and Philly SC may have beat an ECNL team last year. So lets be honest because besides DEFC and Philly SC the rest of the EDP teams in this area are garbage. FC Bucks 8 w 0 l 1 t vs EDP since that loss. Continental 0 losses the last two years to ECNL teams. DEFC and Philly SC (again not a slight in those teams they are excellent) are something like a combined 1 - 6 - 2 vs ECNL teams. All the best talent might not be in the ECNL but certainly there is a lot more. Now with GDA, EDP is even weaker. Keep chasing those gotsoccer points and state cups. Talk about water cooler fodder!
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNice to see the twats moved over to this page.
When was last time an EDP team beat an ECNL team at this age group? March '17 DEFC beat Bucks 3-2, and Philly SC may have beat an ECNL team last year. So lets be honest because besides DEFC and Philly SC the rest of the EDP teams in this area are garbage. FC Bucks 8 w 0 l 1 t vs EDP since that loss. Continental 0 losses the last two years to ECNL teams. DEFC and Philly SC (again not a slight in those teams they are excellent) are something like a combined 1 - 6 - 2 vs ECNL teams. All the best talent might not be in the ECNL but certainly there is a lot more. Now with GDA, EDP is even weaker. Keep chasing those gotsoccer points and state cups. Talk about water cooler fodder!
Bucks college commitments consist primarily of D2,D3 schools with an occasional D1.
Keep trying to convince yourself that ECNL at Bucks is the be all end all. One of these days you may even believe it.
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Hmmmm then why were World Class and Bethesda ECNL teams in the first bracket??? Are they also chasing points or is the truth that they wanted to play better competition? You figure that out smart guy....
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostBucks holds mid year tryouts every year begging for players.
Bucks college commitments consist primarily of D2,D3 schools with an occasional D1.
Keep trying to convince yourself that ECNL at Bucks is the be all end all. One of these days you may even believe it.
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