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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNot a fan. Club soccer is a business, big big business. If you aren’t providing a product that a customer wants than they should feel free to go elsewhere. That’s what blows my mind with these clubs. I pay 8,000 a year for my kid to play soccer, and you want to try and tell her that she can’t explore other clubs, and look at other opportunities?? What?? I’m the one paying.
And who cares about poaching, a player can only be poached if parents agree, and I’ve never met a parent who wasn’t an adult, so if a parent is manipulated, coerced by another club to switch teams than that’s on them. Youth club soccer should not be about creating super teams or winning championships. It should be about individual player development, so let the kid go.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI don't think this means can't go elsewhere. Just you can't club jump until the season ends. Some switch every several months. Development does necessarily occur when you jump ship instead of seeing the process through until the end of the season. I think it is a great idea. It also ensures that coaches can't just pick flavor of week instead of developing kids on team.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIt's really somewhere in between your post and the other one. Some coaches will have more of an impact than others. It's probably about - guessing - 65% player, 25% coach(es), 10% club? I mean the club hires the coaches and maybe directs curriculum, but the club itself really doesn't have that much to do with an individual's development
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostActually it is true. you named coaches, not Clubs. Players may well connect with a coach at a club and that influence may motivate them to work harder or be more open to learning, but players do all the work
Realistically, the first club coach she had was great, but we had poor experiences with the rest and it's why we eventually moved on.
The last, however, while he isn't her coach any longer it's a tight enough group and he keeps an eye on her she still considers him one of her coaches.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postyes, I named the coaches but all of them were also DOCs so, theoretically, they instituted a culture across all the coaches.
Realistically, the first club coach she had was great, but we had poor experiences with the rest and it's why we eventually moved on.
The last, however, while he isn't her coach any longer it's a tight enough group and he keeps an eye on her she still considers him one of her coaches.
There's just no justifiable circumstance where someone besides the player should take credit for developing a player in any way that implies (or worse) that they deserve primary credit (in other words, more than the player), but clubs and coaches do it all the time, from tweets to website bios to marketing materials.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThere are good coaches and good clubs, I don't think anyone is making an argument suggesting otherwise, but the players primarily deserve the credit for their development, and by primarily I mean nearly entirely, even if they lack the wisdom and insight along the way to appreciate that fact and are happy to give credit to others who helped them.
There's just no justifiable circumstance where someone besides the player should take credit for developing a player in any way that implies (or worse) that they deserve primary credit (in other words, more than the player), but clubs and coaches do it all the time, from tweets to website bios to marketing materials.
Where I agree is it was still up to the player to take that direction, institute it in a positive way, put the work in on the side...essentially follow the path they laid out for her. The club/coach is the one who laid the path out.
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A coach can make or break a kid. This year has been a waste of a year of development for my kid, who is at a standstill. No growth this year. Wish there was a website you could post reviews on coaches. Clubs should ask for parent and player reviews on coaches.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostA coach can make or break a kid. This year has been a waste of a year of development for my kid, who is at a standstill. No growth this year. Wish there was a website you could post reviews on coaches. Clubs should ask for parent and player reviews on coaches.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postlol like they'd do anything with information. The clubs know. They just don't care. There's always a fresh batch of new meat every year for the grinder, writing checks. Clubs can move coaches around like the Catholic church moved priests. As long as a coach is adequate, doesn't get a load of complaints, or seriously bad behavior they'll probably keep their job
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSerious question. Which club has the best coaches for developing kids? As far as giving lessons, instructions, teaching.
1) TS is an agenda-based filth-hole
2) It is coach-dependent
3) Different approaches work for different people
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYou won't get a serious answer. Because:
1) TS is an agenda-based filth-hole
2) It is coach-dependent
3) Different approaches work for different people
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