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Old 09-30-2018
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Default Ref organizations: please explain the DOGSO rule to your refs

This is the rule that is most consistently called wrong. I don't mean the refs make bad calls on the field: they, more often than not, get the call right but the ruling wrong. And every parent who played soccer on high school and thinks they know the rule from them is out of date as well.

If a last defender contacts an offensive player, there are only 3 outcomes (or maybe 3.5).

Those outcomes are:

1) No foul.

2) the foul was committed with the ball outside the box, a free kick is awarded and the fouling player is sent off.

3) the foul was committed inside the box, a PK is awarded and the fouling player is given a caution if it is a foul that does not involves a non-violent play at the ball and no holding, pushing or pulling.

3.5) if the foul was committed via violent conduct, holding, pulling or pushing, the ref may, at their discretion, award a PK and a red card.

Here is what cannot happen: a yellow card and a free kick outside of the box. There is no circumstance where a foul is committed on a denial of a goal scoring opportunity where this is the correct outcome. None. Yet that is called all the time.

The ruler change from nearly 3 years ago intended to prevent triple punishment for a fair foul in the box does not seem to have made it to every ref...
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#3 should read:

3) the foul was committed inside the box, a PK is awarded and the fouling player is given a caution if it is a foul that is a non-violent play at the ball and no holding, pushing or pulling occurred.
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I would say most, if not all refs never apply this rule and worse way around it is by not calling anything at all to avoid making a decision or when they do completely miss the opportunity to teach players why it is a rule they need to understand. On my son's U12 team this weekend, kid through on goal in last seconds of game we were losing by one goal, got taken out by a tackle that would have been a red card anywhere else on the field as it was that bad, lucky not to have his leg broken. Ref awarded free kick on top of box, kid who got hit carried off in tears, kid who made bad tackle stayed on field and wasn't even spoken too. Just as we were lining up to take free-kick, ref blowed whistle for end of game as kid was running up to shoot. Coach who had said nothing at this point said to ref that this was wrong to do that and got yellow carded. Other team high fiving player who won them the game with the aggresive tackle.
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I want to start by saying this weekend my daughters game had the best ref- he was on every call from early in the game, moving up and down the field. Every whistle for an infraction, he would explain to the girls why he called it.. a teaching moment with class. But he has been the exception to the rule. Maybe they say oh they are only u12, but i have seen it progressing and the games get out of hand fast because they don't enforce it early in the game. A few whistles early for pushing aggressive tackles can nip it in the bud fast. Also i see the crappy parents yelling, it could be due to the harassment of the parents on every whistle sometimes, they are gun shy to make a hard call or give a yellow/red card. I dont envy the refs, i just worry that we are going to see those bumps, bruises and sprains turn into stitches and walking casts soon. They are getting physically strong fast at this age.

Anyone else seeing it?
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I have coached for years and I wish refs would set the tone quickly.
Give cards to parents, players who mouth off or for playing dirty.

To tackle the parents, as a coach, I warned all of my parents that if I get ejected, we will have to forfeit the game (only coach). Imagine what an ***** they would like and especially to their kid! Advised also if I get fined, I'm passing the fine to them. With my parents understanding this, I really never had any problems with them.

Players -> Ultimately they ref should be responsible for players safety out there.
I see too many times games starting out very rough and no warning or cards.
Than it escalates and by the time they bring out cards someone is injured or a brawl breaks out. I've had goalies taken out, kids purposely cleated or various other dirtly plays that resulted in injuries. Most of them could have been prevented if the ref set the tone early.

I personally believe the way they should handle this is at the U9/u10 level. The ref should call everything! Therefore as the kids (and parents) gradually move up the ranks, they will just play soccer and just parents will only cheer for all kids.
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