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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    The problem is very much cost. In addition to culture.
    There is no cost at MLS DA programs, it is free! The highest level opportunity is free, you can’t beat that.

    The cost to play local community soccer is cheap. Any child that wants to play the sport can, and it’s often very low cost. Community level soccer, no travel, low cost, you can’t beat that.

    Cost is not any issue. M

    If cost is an issue, please explain how you take the costs out of the type of soccer your child
    is playing?

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      #17
      Mls da is only for boys.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Mls da is only for boys.
        Correct, what’s your point?

        WPSL clubs can make their GDA programs free if they like.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Correct, what’s your point?

          WPSL clubs can make their GDA programs free if they like.
          Doubt it. With what money? Gda and all other soccer for girls and all soccer for boys outside of the mls dad will remain pay to play..and pay a lot to play at the high levels. Is what it is

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            this is so true. most euro parents of pros just let their kids play in the local parks for free. never structured anything.
            Wrong, that’s what most of the parents do, the ones that are talented get sent away when they are 12 to soccer academies, and they are then owned by their club....

            Don’t think the us parent is down with that..

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Zlatan on football in the US: "The sport is expensive, very expensive. For example, in order for my children to play in a good football team, I have to pay $ 3,500 per child. It is not for the figure, but for the whole concept. I dislike it very much because not everyone has the money needed and the sport should be something for everyone, because it unites people of whatever origin.
              Sorry Zlatan (and all you other ignorant sheep) but nothing is free. The Swedish (where Zlatan is from) personal income tax rate is 62%. Programs have to be paid for somehow. Either pay the government and they can make all your decisions for you, or keep your money and spend it where you choose to spend it. Maybe you choose soccer, or maybe you choose gymnastics. The choice is yours, not the governments. But remember, nothing is free (except the freedom of choice).

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Doubt it. With what money? Gda and all other soccer for girls and all soccer for boys outside of the mls dad will remain pay to play..and pay a lot to play at the high levels. Is what it is
                Soccer is still an inexpensive sport here in the US. Every city and town offers community level soccer, and then MLS offers free development academies for the top players. If you want to play, and not spend a lot, there are plenty of opportunities. We all have choices, and if you want to play travel level soccer there is a team that will most likely fit your budget.

                I am still waiting for pay to play cry babies to educate us on how you plan to pay for all levels of youth soccer in the US. It cannot and won’t happen!

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Soccer is still an inexpensive sport here in the US. Every city and town offers community level soccer, and then MLS offers free development academies for the top players. If you want to play, and not spend a lot, there are plenty of opportunities. We all have choices, and if you want to play travel level soccer there is a team that will most likely fit your budget.

                  I am still waiting for pay to play cry babies to educate us on how you plan to pay for all levels of youth soccer in the US. It cannot and won’t happen!
                  Who is crying? At the higher levels, youth soccer is for kids from families with plenty of disposable income. Only exception are a few kids in mls da programs

                  This is a business.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Who is crying? At the higher levels, youth soccer is for kids from families with plenty of disposable income. Only exception are a few kids in mls da programs

                    This is a business.
                    Everyone pays and it’s not free anyplace in the world. Someone is paying. Just different levels of costs and you get what you pay for.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Everyone pays and it’s not free anyplace in the world. Someone is paying. Just different levels of costs and you get what you pay for.
                      Zlatan said this is not true. In us mls tickets cost about 90 dollar. No one should have to pay 90 dollar for garbage. I pay for a football game and got garbage.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Everyone pays and it’s not free anyplace in the world. Someone is paying. Just different levels of costs and you get what you pay for.
                        Youth soccer is highly subsidized from the top down in many many counties. If is cheap to play as they are trying to attract ALL players in hopes of finding talent that can make them money.

                        It is a completely different business model. The money is generated from fees for finding and producing soccer talent, not from the families of players

                        These fees are forbidden here is my understanding. The two systems have different goals.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Youth soccer is highly subsidized from the top down in many many counties. If is cheap to play as they are trying to attract ALL players in hopes of finding talent that can make them money.

                          It is a completely different business model. The money is generated from fees for finding and producing soccer talent, not from the families of players

                          These fees are forbidden here is my understanding. The two systems have different goals.
                          Let all agree the pay to play model in america sucks. The soccer does not have to do anything but collect money. The coaching is sub par at best. I bet if youth soccer coaches were paid by visible result, they would all quit.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Let all agree the pay to play model in america sucks. The soccer does not have to do anything but collect money. The coaching is sub par at best. I bet if youth soccer coaches were paid by visible result, they would all quit.
                            Depends on the goal.

                            If you are trying to find and develop the best soccer talent, it is a poor system.

                            But if you are trying to provide a deluxe soccer activity for athletic kids from families with some money to burn, it works great.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              And herein lies the reason why the US men will never be as good as the best in the world.

                              The women are the best in spite of the system here. The only reason they're the best is because in much of the world women are not encouraged to play and are suppressed. As that changes, there will be more parity on the women's side. Actually it's already starting.
                              US women will always be a top contender because of the money spent here relative to other countries. Other countries will catch up to an extent, but not like the men in other countries where fortunes are to be made on the men's side. That ultimate same fortune is not there on the women's side in other countries so they will never invest the same in female youth programs like we do here. Plus in the US female soccer is arguably the top female sport so it draws the top female athletes. US men are spread over several sports.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                The problem isn’t cost, it’s culture. Until you can find a soccer field in every town like you do in even the poorest of towns in Europe. Parents who get their kids out of the house, off video games, and out playing. And have soccer be part of life like it is elsewhere, the US will still suck
                                There are two state of the art turf fields in the center of my town. Could be the most beautiful summer day, and they are empty. Always. I have literally never seen a pick up game there.

                                Two basketball court right next to them. Always being used.

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