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how is this any different then what we have here now with Timbers clubs? Looks the same to me and seems to be working just fine.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Posthow is this any different then what we have here now with Timbers clubs? Looks the same to me and seems to be working just fine.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIf you want to call total dysfunction "fine", go right ahead. Youth soccer will not improve until the Timbers get out of it completely.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostOur experience the last few years has been great - both club and league. No league is perfect and there's always bumps in the road but for the most part it's been a better experience then when we were with OPL. Our club has been great (and accommodating a times.) Maybe coming in now or where your currently playing is skewing your opinion. We know lots of happy people at our club, and those that aren't can certainly leave at any time to go where ever they think they will be happy. No hard feelings. I know of more positive experiences at our timbers club then negatives.
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If these transitions represented real investment of facilities, staff and $$ by these professional organizations into the development of youth soccer it would be an exciting movement. Unfortunately, all I see is already established clubs being branded by these professional organizations as a marketing tool for both parties. When the entire club staff is retained and left to run the organization, what professional change has really taken place and how have the kids benefited? Would love to see the Timbers use their financial resources to bring top level coaching talent and facilities to Oregon. So far I see neither which is truly disappointing!
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIf these transitions represented real investment of facilities, staff and $$ by these professional organizations into the development of youth soccer it would be an exciting movement. Unfortunately, all I see is already established clubs being branded by these professional organizations as a marketing tool for both parties. When the entire club staff is retained and left to run the organization, what professional change has really taken place and how have the kids benefited? Would love to see the Timbers use their financial resources to bring top level coaching talent and facilities to Oregon. So far I see neither which is truly disappointing!
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIn all reality, the same should occur with ECNL clubs. I know that other ECNL clubs who have been in the league for a number of years have used the membership to really enhance their programs and to add to their coaching resources and facilities. I know it's but a year into Oregon ECNL, but I don't see much change other than two clubs merging and the teams adding ECNL to their team names. For example, I spoke with a member of FC Dallas and they have added to their resources significantly. He said Dallas Sting and the Dallas Texans have as well. The other two ECNL clubs there have not used the membership well and are going sideways with teams becoming uncompetitive. If Portland clubs don't manage this well, they are never going to go anywhere in ECNL and will become even more uncompetitive than they are now. Similar to what Utah and Boise are doing.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe Oregon ECNL clubs could do absolutely NOTHING and they would still be a far better alternative than Thorns Academy or OYSA. The fact that they are doing a lot more than NOTHING is already showing as the ECNL teams are clearly the strongest teams in their age groups within Oregon (by far in most cases) and are competing very well outside of the state.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe Oregon ECNL clubs could do absolutely NOTHING and they would still be a far better alternative than Thorns Academy or OYSA. The fact that they are doing a lot more than NOTHING is already showing as the ECNL teams are clearly the strongest teams in their age groups within Oregon (by far in most cases) and are competing very well outside of the state.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIn all reality, the same should occur with ECNL clubs. I know that other ECNL clubs who have been in the league for a number of years have used the membership to really enhance their programs and to add to their coaching resources and facilities. I know it's but a year into Oregon ECNL, but I don't see much change other than two clubs merging and the teams adding ECNL to their team names. For example, I spoke with a member of FC Dallas and they have added to their resources significantly. He said Dallas Sting and the Dallas Texans have as well. The other two ECNL clubs there have not used the membership well and are going sideways with teams becoming uncompetitive. If Portland clubs don't manage this well, they are never going to go anywhere in ECNL and will become even more uncompetitive than they are now. Similar to what Utah and Boise are doing.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostOP. I would completely agree that ECNL should be held accountable as well but they lack the financial resources that the MLS franchises could bring to the table if they truly wanted to invest in local youth soccer. Unfortunately, these organizations seem unwilling to do so.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNot the case at all. MLS franchises also have large expenses. They don't make much money. ECNL has few expenses by comparison. Around the country, there have been a number of ECNL clubs who have who have done really well due to their membership in ECNL and have added tremendous resourses to girls soccer. Other members have done absolutely nothing and are struggling. Generally the ones who have done well are the ones who are highly competitive (to wit, Crossfire Premier, Slammers, etc.), and those who have done nothing are highly uncompetitive (to wit, Las Vegas, Birmingham, etc.). It's too early to say Portland clubs fit in one camp or the other, but in the 18 or so months since being admitted, neither club has made significant changes.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostBut how do they generate the extra revenue to truly afford the changes they need to make? The parents can only afford so much and it's not exactly scalable... i.e. add players add coaches! So the successful clubs have to either sponsor high quality tournaments or find significant corporate sponsorship to really raise the bar. Both are high hurdles!
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