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    Wow this thread got off track.
    To clarify.. ADF is not folding. In fact adding another coach and more teams expected next year.
    ADF is not trying to get a THPRD field. They have PCC Sylvania,MJCC Indoor and just added Delta.
    No clue how the THPRD encyclopedia poster on here tried connecting any dots from those fields to ADF. Senseless and off topic.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Wow this thread got off track.
      To clarify.. ADF is not folding. In fact adding another coach and more teams expected next year.ADF is not trying to get a THPRD field. They have PCC Sylvania,MJCC Indoor and just added Delta.No clue how the THPRD encyclopedia poster on here tried connecting any dots from those fields to ADF. Senseless and off topic.
      If this outfit is adding an actual qualified soccer coach that's great, given what they have now. They will always be trying to get fields since they have no home. Renting space when available is a gamble and can be problematic based on demand and facility objectives. The emergence of rouge clubs and their ultimate demise is well chronicled in the last few years especially with no oversight or criteria for club formation from the bare boned irrelevant OYSA who are held hostage by Peregrine. Hopefully they can find a geographic home and serve a community with a mission that reflect a non-profit soccer club. Right now they are confused entity with a foundation of niche private training kids and parents and have lost their financial backer. All the best.

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        Originally posted by unregistered View Post
        if this outfit is adding an actual qualified soccer coach that's great, given what they have now. They will always be trying to get fields since they have no home. Renting space when available is a gamble and can be problematic based on demand and facility objectives. The emergence of rouge clubs and their ultimate demise is well chronicled in the last few years especially with no oversight or criteria for club formation from the bare boned irrelevant oysa who are held hostage by peregrine. Hopefully they can find a geographic home and serve a community with a mission that reflect a non-profit soccer club. Right now they are confused entity with a foundation of niche private training kids and parents and have lost their financial backer. All the best.
        adf rip

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          Larga vida ADF.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            If this outfit is adding an actual qualified soccer coach that's great, given what they have now. They will always be trying to get fields since they have no home. Renting space when available is a gamble and can be problematic based on demand and facility objectives. The emergence of rouge clubs and their ultimate demise is well chronicled in the last few years especially with no oversight or criteria for club formation from the bare boned irrelevant OYSA who are held hostage by Peregrine. Hopefully they can find a geographic home and serve a community with a mission that reflect a non-profit soccer club. Right now they are confused entity with a foundation of niche private training kids and parents and have lost their financial backer. All the best.
            A rouge club? Half the clubs in town, including all the TA clubs, wear rouge kit. :)

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              If this outfit is adding an actual qualified soccer coach that's great, given what they have now. They will always be trying to get fields since they have no home. Renting space when available is a gamble and can be problematic based on demand and facility objectives. The emergence of rouge clubs and their ultimate demise is well chronicled in the last few years especially with no oversight or criteria for club formation from the bare boned irrelevant OYSA who are held hostage by Peregrine. Hopefully they can find a geographic home and serve a community with a mission that reflect a non-profit soccer club. Right now they are confused entity with a foundation of niche private training kids and parents and have lost their financial backer. All the best.
              I hope ADF survives. I think whether you agree with their philosophy or not, ADF puts some pressure on the traditional clubs to up their game and not become complacent. It is also a place that attracts some of the crazier parents, and it isn't such a bad thing for them to have someplace to go that isn't my kid's club. All in all, ADF is a good thing on a couple of different levels.

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                I dare you to tell Gracie Mosquera he's an unqualified soccer coach to his face.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  I dare you to tell Gracie Mosquera he's an unqualified soccer coach to his face.
                  I dare you to tell anyone, to their face, he is a qualified coach.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    I hope ADF survives. I think whether you agree with their philosophy or not, ADF puts some pressure on the traditional clubs to up their game and not become complacent. It is also a place that attracts some of the crazier parents, and it isn't such a bad thing for them to have someplace to go that isn't my kid's club. All in all, ADF is a good thing on a couple of different levels.
                    The between the lines, unregulated and unproven business enterprise of 'Private Training' as a comprehensive 'youth soccer club philosophy' is not a discussion point or something to agree with or disagree with. It's simply a way to make money off parents whose kids could do this activity in isolation and for free with just a ball and imagination.

                    Traditional clubs have offered 'Private Training' for decades as an ancillary menu item that never gains much traction, it's a fringe activity.

                    So there is no pressure created by ADF on any local clubs due to this capitalistic enterprise that requires affluent parents willing to write checks, to unemployed soccer enthusiasts unable to make a living in the real labor force.

                    Of course this kind of thing attracts crazier parents as it's all about the 'user experience' and nothing to do with team, club or community. It's private training.

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                      Most elite players get private, semi-private training via a coach, academy like ADF or camps at one point in time or another.
                      Just a fact.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Most elite players get private, semi-private training via a coach, academy like ADF or camps at one point in time or another.
                        Just a fact.

                        Whether you have any empirical data to support this theory, is on you to provide, for now it's just a blanket generalization that has nothing do with private training in Oregon as we have no 'elite' players in our community. But, supposedly 'elite' private trainers.

                        Correct?

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                          It's a worldwide phenomenon.. http://www.livestrong.com/article/27...ccer-training/

                          Oregon is just behind the curve.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            It's a worldwide phenomenon.. http://www.livestrong.com/article/27...ccer-training/

                            Oregon is just behind the curve.
                            Here is just one take on this 'worldwide phenomenon'...parents advised not to read, please.

                            http://changingthegameproject.com/th...-youth-sports/

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Here is just one take on this 'worldwide phenomenon'...parents advised not to read, please.

                              http://changingthegameproject.com/th...-youth-sports/
                              Awesome.

                              And soccer is probably one of the worst offenders in this regard--there is a lot of received wisdom (and not without some basis in fact, unfortunately, though I expect the truth of the matter is often evaluated) that:

                              1) This is how the Other Countries (who are better than us) do it.

                              2) Soccer really takes more training (whether formal training with a coach, games, or informal practice by yourself) to master--that's it's a "harder" sport to learn than many other popular US team sports, which don't really care how good a kid is until he/she reaches high school.

                              But yes, there is a rat race, particularly if you're on the first team of one of the top clubs.

                              Perhaps we need a law granting players the right to a pro-rated refund of club fees if they are cut. Certainly that should be case if they are asked to leave a club altogether, and they should have the option to leave (and claim a refund) if demoted to the B team. (Or they can stay, in which case they aren't entitled).

                              That said--unless your kid really wants the pressure of an A team, there's nothing wrong with most club's B teams--you'll get good soccer there (no matter what the snottier parents around here might think). Even rec teams, especially at older ages (where one is less likely to counter players of very low skill or motivation or "my parents want me to get some exercise"), can provide a good soccer experience.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Here is just one take on this 'worldwide phenomenon'...parents advised not to read, please.

                                http://changingthegameproject.com/th...-youth-sports/
                                That's great stuff for the average athlete who is mediocre in many sports. Elite athletes train and commit differently. Look at Messi. He was recruited at age 8 for Newell and by 13 was living in the FC Barcelona academy. He is arguably the greatest player of all time. He didn't get that way by playing a different sport every season and having his parents coddle him after every game. We dont have real academy's like FCB in the US other than maybe IMG in Florida. Our training culture is different and right or wrong parents who have children that crave more and better elite training have to look outside their local clubs to get it.

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