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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Yep. Eastside and Westside can't even win a split league! They'd probably be relegated in a unified league. Primary reason why the Timbers don't want a unified league...
    only one team that would struggle in the OPL from OYSA and that is Grants Pass....otherwise the OPL would get their arses kicked

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Right now--yes. But once ENCL teams start winning, then what do you think the Timbers will do? They will start making academy teams at U14 also.

      Pretty sure FCP ECNL is doing some winning, let us know when the thorns start adding age brackets.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        That was a year ago. Things change. And not for the better for Eastside and Westside. Enjoy your mid-pack finish in a split league while you still have a team...
        split league or not....OYSA is waaaaaaaaaaaay stronger

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Right now--yes. But once ENCL teams start winning, then what do you think the Timbers will do? They will start making academy teams at U14 also.
          they will not make any more academy teams....maybe one more at U15 but that is it.
          I'm sure the Timbers understand the market better than the ECNL crowd. The market isn't big enough to carry two ECNL teams.

          If the girls side (this includes the whacko girls parents) were to carbon copy the boys side then you would have some success....the boys DA side is a success and is proven to place kids at the next level...it is a true funnel that works in line with US Youth Soccer....

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Pretty sure FCP ECNL is doing some winning, let us know when the thorns start adding age brackets.
            they won't add but one more age...they are much smarter than the ECNL crowd who think two ECNL programs are sustainable in the PDX Metro Area

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              We aren't talking ECNL here, dumb-dumb.

              The only thing that has changed is the already weak OPL U14 division is even weaker with the better THUSC, FC and LO players moving to their ECNL teams. If FC and LO were getting relegated last year, they would be demolished this year in a combined league. Medford and Eugene are significantly better than any team except Salmon Creek in the OPL.

              From here on out, once the FC, THUSC and Crossfire girls teams reach the U14 age group their best players will drop out of the local state leagues for the ECNL. Beginning with this age group and younger age groups moving forward, if you stay in the OPL you are playing in a 2nd tier league. ECNL will destroy the OPL above the U14 age group moving forward.

              Sad to say, but this is the truth.
              Sorry, but history is not on your side. Look at every ECNL club out there, they have only gotten stronger by ECNL. The void will be filled on short notice. Talent will go towards those clubs more often than not, even if your not going to be in ECNL, those clubs will attract more talent simply because they will be stronger with more opportunities. Your argument does not pan out when you look at just about avery club that has gotten an ECNL bid. Those players that will be talented but maybe not playing in ECNL, (ECNL reserve) will be playing in OPL. Good luck with your academy, but it's just not as strong as ECNL. OYSA days are numbered as far as girls soccer in oregon.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                they will not make any more academy teams....maybe one more at U15 but that is it.
                I'm sure the Timbers understand the market better than the ECNL crowd. The market isn't big enough to carry two ECNL teams.

                If the girls side (this includes the whacko girls parents) were to carbon copy the boys side then you would have some success....the boys DA side is a success and is proven to place kids at the next level...it is a true funnel that works in line with US Youth Soccer....
                You just hope the market isn't big enough. Again, you hope it isn't. But it is, the market will catch up, ECNL will be the reason Oregon soccer improves over all, not the academy. The academy is just a hybrid response to ECNL.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  split league or not....OYSA is waaaaaaaaaaaay stronger
                  Maybe a little, but it won't last. ECNL/OPL is more solid for the long run. The longer ECNL goes on, the stronger OPL gets.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Sorry, but history is not on your side. Look at every ECNL club out there, they have only gotten stronger by ECNL. The void will be filled on short notice. Talent will go towards those clubs more often than not, even if your not going to be in ECNL, those clubs will attract more talent simply because they will be stronger with more opportunities. Your argument does not pan out when you look at just about avery club that has gotten an ECNL bid. Those players that will be talented but maybe not playing in ECNL, (ECNL reserve) will be playing in OPL. Good luck with your academy, but it's just not as strong as ECNL. OYSA days are numbered as far as girls soccer in oregon.
                    The talent is spread too thin. You can't compare Oregon to these other markets. Players are not going to leave their local teams to play on the B team at one of these ECNL clubs. This isn't California or Seattle.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      The talent is spread too thin. You can't compare Oregon to these other markets. Players are not going to leave their local teams to play on the B team at one of these ECNL clubs. This isn't California or Seattle.
                      look at Idaho...they suck!

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        look at Idaho...they suck!
                        Utah avalanche....sucks!

                        all small markets

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          The talent is spread too thin. You can't compare Oregon to these other markets. Players are not going to leave their local teams to play on the B team at one of these ECNL clubs. This isn't California or Seattle.
                          We shall see.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            We shall see.
                            I love how these clubs have NOTHING to talk about at the local level in a discussion thread about local league teams so everything has to turn to a discussion about ECNL.

                            Listen, go back to your "elite" teams and leave the local discussion to clubs who actually are trying to work with the rest of the kids.

                            Everyone knows you care only about the top 1% of players. At least be honest about it.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              look at Idaho...they suck!
                              Oregon market is much larger than Idaho.
                              Oregon = 3.9 million
                              Idaho = 1.6 million

                              Portland metro pop, = 609,000
                              Seattle metro pop = 652,000
                              (not much difference there)

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                I love how these clubs have NOTHING to talk about at the local level in a discussion thread about local league teams so everything has to turn to a discussion about ECNL.

                                Listen, go back to your "elite" teams and leave the local discussion to clubs who actually are trying to work with the rest of the kids.

                                Everyone knows you care only about the top 1% of players. At least be honest about it.
                                the 99percent will follow.

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