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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Better clubs and MLS generally won't give waivers, official (USSF approved for private school players) or especially unofficial (the club doesn't put them in a DA roster until the players finish high school soccer).
    In New England we have wealthy families and an abundance of high cost prep schools so it makes sense that a sport for rich kids would need to accommodate the families that pay for the actual talented players on their club teams.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Better clubs and MLS generally won't give waivers, official (USSF approved for private school players) or especially unofficial (the club doesn't put them in a DA roster until the players finish high school soccer). Problem is with so many clubs and a limited and diluted talent pool, many clubs have to make accommodations to get players they want. DA rules also require 25% starts no matter when you come on board. Returning players have to get their starts in. I've no doubt clubs would rather not give any waivers - it messes with their rosters, makes teams weaker in the fall, creates tension when players return - but they don't have many choices but to take paying customers
      Revs give waivers.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        DA rules also require 25% starts no matter when you come on board. Returning players have to get their starts in.
        With the new DA format for boys only the Spring schedule counts towards playoffs. That means waivered players only need to start 3-4 of the 12-14 games. Sorry, there are some players in for a surprise come showcase time.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Revs give waivers.
          That's a recent thing. When they were stronger they didn't need to. Now they do.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            With the new DA format for boys only the Spring schedule counts towards playoffs. That means waivered players only need to start 3-4 of the 12-14 games. Sorry, there are some players in for a surprise come showcase time.
            Not true http://www.ussoccerda.com/doclib/201...EGULATIONS.pdf

            2. If a player is added midseason, the player should start at least 25% of the team’s remaining Academy games during the season.

            Players can be added as late as April 1. That means players coming in during the spring, which can happen, have to get in their starts.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Revs give waivers.
              Revs give HS waivers under "extreme hardship circumstances" according the Fuhrer Scales.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Revs give HS waivers under "extreme hardship circumstances" according the Fuhrer Scales.
                That's why our region's MLS Academy is in shambles.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  ‘Buyer beware’
                  Hate to say it, but you don’t sign without realizing the possibilities.
                  The only way to fix the issue is to end waivers.
                  My favorite is the public school kid who plays HS ball then comes looking to join DA and a DA team magically has a spot on the roster for them.
                  Waivers=dumb

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                    #24
                    Ultimately the unfairness lies in haves (prep kids) getting special treatment over the (have nots). Public school kids are forced to make a tough decision to not play high school. Private school kids have no issue at all.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Ultimately the unfairness lies in haves (prep kids) getting special treatment over the (have nots). Public school kids are forced to make a tough decision to not play high school. Private school kids have no issue at all.
                      A lot of prep school kid’s families make big sacrifices to get them a good education. The cost of some of the repeated DA weekend travel is greater than tuition payments. Haves and have nots are public vs private school it’s the pay to play club vs the kids who can’t afford club even after scholarships.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Ultimately the unfairness lies in haves (prep kids) getting special treatment over the (have nots). Public school kids are forced to make a tough decision to not play high school. Private school kids have no issue at all.
                        Not every private school kid is given a waiver. Both the club and USSF have to approve it and you you have to prove some kind of reason why you have to play. Lots of public school kids are given unofficial waivers - the wink wink come back in November when school soccer is done and we'll put you on the roster kind of "waiver" . That's perfectly legal and used frequently.

                        However, with either type it's only for the better players. They're not giving those out to the 2nd line subs and bench warmers; starters only.

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                          #27
                          This ridiculous “have vs have not” narrative is stupid. Lots of the private school players are getting tons of financial aid. They are an asset to their school because of their soccer skill. Stop making a thing where there’s not a thing. So boring.

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                            #28
                            I wouldn’t call our family a “have” or “have not”

                            We are 2 working family household and make a decent living. We receive sizable financial aid for our D to go to prep school and she is given a waiver from her club. My assumption is that without soccer we may not receive the amount of aid that we do.

                            Not sure how anyone could say she’s not prepared to come back to club. She’s played 10 times the amount of soccer. 2-3 games per week playing the full 80 minutes most of the time.

                            If your jealous that some kids get waivers, take it up with the club who gave them....don’t make BS comments that ISL kids don’t work hard...because many of the top players in the state play for prep schools.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              I wouldn’t call our family a “have” or “have not”

                              We are 2 working family household and make a decent living. We receive sizable financial aid for our D to go to prep school and she is given a waiver from her club. My assumption is that without soccer we may not receive the amount of aid that we do.

                              Not sure how anyone could say she’s not prepared to come back to club. She’s played 10 times the amount of soccer. 2-3 games per week playing the full 80 minutes most of the time.

                              If your jealous that some kids get waivers, take it up with the club who gave them....don’t make BS comments that ISL kids don’t work hard...because many of the top players in the state play for prep schools.
                              Good for your kids, but why is it okay to say public school kids can’t have a waiver if they are really good? It’s crap and you know it. I personally know many DA families who have kids that get waivers and they are very well off. No way are they getting one cent of financial aid.
                              Get rid of the waivers and force everyone to make the same choice.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                This ridiculous “have vs have not” narrative is stupid. Lots of the private school players are getting tons of financial aid. They are an asset to their school because of their soccer skill. Stop making a thing where there’s not a thing. So boring.
                                Got it. Here’s the problem. DA has to be willing then to accept that they will have “waivered” Prep school kids and (very often) the less skilled public school kids. Any public school player who accepts a position on DA knowing that they will be giving up HS (warts and all) to play DA in the Fall when the Prep school kids are being waivered and playing for their high school is crazy. Sure there are cases where the kid goes to a public HS with a terrible soccer program or whatever... then, it could make sense. For a HS with a decent program, it’s a slap in the face to be told “sorry, you have to give up HS... but we’re giving waivers to your teammates who play at prep schools... you’ll see them in November”. You can justify any way you want, I’m simply telling you why you won’t have the best DA programs / teams.

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