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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    The French players play in a legitimate professional league and make good money doing it. Why do you think our players are leaving for Europe?

    There is no soccer culture here! College is the end game. Over there, if you go to college it means you weren't a good enough player to make it as a pro. Wake up people!
    I remember being impressed by France in the last WC so I'm not surprised that they continue to look very strong. Obviously there are several other countries that are also closing in on us. While women's soccer may not be as large as the men's side in Europe, it is a presence, they are putting serious money behind it, and soccer is a big part of the culture. Top it off with management and coaching that knows what it is doing and I see why USSF is nervous. Problem is we don't have the management and coaching. Add to it our players waiting in the wings (not full team) are all playing in college. Not only are they not training often enough as team members, but college isn't known as the place to be for development.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      I remember being impressed by France in the last WC so I'm not surprised that they continue to look very strong. Obviously there are several other countries that are also closing in on us. While women's soccer may not be as large as the men's side in Europe, it is a presence, they are putting serious money behind it, and soccer is a big part of the culture. Top it off with management and coaching that knows what it is doing and I see why USSF is nervous. Problem is we don't have the management and coaching. Add to it our players waiting in the wings (not full team) are all playing in college. Not only are they not training often enough as team members, but college isn't known as the place to be for development.
      Actually, isn't college "the" place for female soccer pros to finish up their pre-professional development? Don't even the European ladies cut their teeth in NCAA soccer play?

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Actually, isn't college "the" place for female soccer pros to finish up their pre-professional development? Don't even the European ladies cut their teeth in NCAA soccer play?
        In Europe the female pro path is actually developing at a faster pace than here with more money behind it. Just in the last few months a few of our NT players announced they're going to Europe

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          In Europe the female pro path is actually developing at a faster pace than here with more money behind it. Just in the last few months a few of our NT players announced they're going to Europe
          Right, but aren't these post-college NT players who are going? That is, isn't NCAA a significant step for pro players here and also in Europe, on the women's side?

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Right, but aren't these post-college NT players who are going? That is, isn't NCAA a significant step for pro players here and also in Europe, on the women's side?
            Perhaps, but it is changing. Below is not the norm, but it is going to start happening more and more for the top players.

            Lindsey Horan:
            Horan grew up in Golden, Colorado. Although she attended Golden High School, she did not play soccer for the school. Instead, she played club soccer with the Colorado Rush. She first started playing for the Rush* during the U-11 tryouts. In March, when Horan was 15 years old and was one of the youngest players on the United States under-17 women's national team, she scored 12 goals in nine games (a team best) leading up to the North American/Central American/Caribbean U-17 tournament in Costa Rica. During her sophomore year at Golden, she was named to the Parade Magazine High School All-American team although she didn't play high school soccer.[4][5]

            In 2012, Horan was named the top-ranked college prospect by ESPN.[6] Although she had a scholarship to play for North Carolina, Horan bypassed her college career and signed with French club, Paris Saint-Germain FC (PSG).[7]

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Perhaps, but it is changing. Below is not the norm, but it is going to start happening more and more for the top players.

              Lindsey Horan:
              Horan grew up in Golden, Colorado. Although she attended Golden High School, she did not play soccer for the school. Instead, she played club soccer with the Colorado Rush. She first started playing for the Rush* during the U-11 tryouts. In March, when Horan was 15 years old and was one of the youngest players on the United States under-17 women's national team, she scored 12 goals in nine games (a team best) leading up to the North American/Central American/Caribbean U-17 tournament in Costa Rica. During her sophomore year at Golden, she was named to the Parade Magazine High School All-American team although she didn't play high school soccer.[4][5]

              In 2012, Horan was named the top-ranked college prospect by ESPN.[6] Although she had a scholarship to play for North Carolina, Horan bypassed her college career and signed with French club, Paris Saint-Germain FC (PSG).[7]
              And, she washed out of PSG and is back in the USA making a pittance and wishing she got a college education and a real job. :/

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                And, she washed out of PSG and is back in the USA making a pittance and wishing she got a college education and a real job. :/
                Washed out? What does that mean? Did you know her stats? Yeah, didn't think so, you were too busy getting to your response.

                BTW: She scored 46 goal in 58 games. That's a better rate than Messi and Ronaldo.
                Clueless.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Washed out? What does that mean? Did you know her stats? Yeah, didn't think so, you were too busy getting to your response.

                  BTW: She scored 46 goal in 58 games. That's a better rate than Messi and Ronaldo.
                  Clueless.
                  And she left because why?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    And she left because why?
                    With the ambition of playing at the 2016 Rio Olympics, Lindsey Horan wanted to join a franchise in her homeland to meet the criteria to represent her country. As of this January, Lindsey Horan will play for the Portland Thorns.

                    "Playing for Paris Saint-Germain for the past four seasons, with so many international stars and a great coaching staff has seen me improve so much. I thank the club for everything they have done for me. I think I have achieved a lot here with Paris. I experienced four extraordinary seasons and have some incredible memories. The fans were always amazing with me and always supported me."

                    Kosovare Asllani, after three and a half seasons at the club, including an excellent first campaign in which she scored 22 goals, has also terminated her contract with Paris Saint-Germain.

                    The club would like to thank both players for their hard work and commitment over the past four seasons and wish them every success for the future.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      And she left because why?
                      it's called Google

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        it's called Google
                        "Lindsey Horan wanted to join a franchise in her homeland to meet the criteria to represent her country"

                        Yeah, because they would have banned her from playing in the Olympics because she worked in France.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Right, but aren't these post-college NT players who are going? That is, isn't NCAA a significant step for pro players here and also in Europe, on the women's side?
                          There's an upward tick of boys moving (or trying to move) overseas while still in their mid to late teens to go pro; several college players have gone to MLS after one year of college play. If you wait until you're 22+ - at least on teh mens' side - to go pro it's almost too late. If a club is going to spend money to develop you further they want to get the most mileage out of you, and they can better shape you if you come in earlier

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            "Lindsey Horan wanted to join a franchise in her homeland to meet the criteria to represent her country"

                            Yeah, because they would have banned her from playing in the Olympics because she worked in France.
                            you're clueless. you don't know the requirements. she was playing overseas and made a sacrifice to represent her country. applaud her, don't belittle her from your couch. now go wash your hands, mom is calling you for lunch

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              you're clueless. you don't know the requirements. she was playing overseas and made a sacrifice to represent her country. applaud her, don't belittle her from your couch. now go wash your hands, mom is calling you for lunch
                              She should have stayed at PSG, or at least, moved to another strong European side like Manchester City, to continue her career development. She would not have been prevented from playing in the Olympics.

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                                #45
                                US dominance in women's soccer is over. We dominated in the past NOT because we had a tremendous system that developed and nurtured stars. We won because with a country of 300M and a progressive attitude towards women (relative to rest of world), we just had lots of girls playing the sport. Now you have countries like China with billions of people focusing on the sport and smaller European countries with well developed programs and systems focusing on the sport. Our statistical and social advantage is no longer enough.

                                The key will not be DA or some other "system", we need a viable league that develops players when they are not with the national team. NWSL is heading in the right direction but it has a LONG LONG way to go. Hopefully with the recent infusion of cash, it may be able to invest in growth an infrastructure and develop into a world class league.

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