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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSwimming and Baseball use May 1st; Basketball and Rugby use Sept 1st. As far as I'm concerned a date is a date, put one and stick with it.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostEasy: use GRADUATION YEAR! Like lacrosse switched to and lacrosse is the fastest growing sport in the country. Colleges recruit by GRADUATION YEAR, they don’t care what month you were born nor when your state’s school cutoff is. Graduation year is all they care about so it makes perfect sense. Heard ECNL was switching to grad year to corner 90% of the youth soccer market. If USSF changes, it helps everyone and keeps their GDA alive.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostEasy: use GRADUATION YEAR! Like lacrosse switched to and lacrosse is the fastest growing sport in the country. Colleges recruit by GRADUATION YEAR, they don’t care what month you were born nor when your state’s school cutoff is. Graduation year is all they care about so it makes perfect sense. Heard ECNL was switching to grad year to corner 90% of the youth soccer market. If USSF changes, it helps everyone and keeps their GDA alive.
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As long as there is college athletic money, youth sports in our country are completely tied to school. College soccer is the goal for 99% of youth soccer players. Graduation year age groups is the only grouping that makes any sense.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAs long as there is college athletic money, youth sports in our country are completely tied to school. College soccer is the goal for 99% of youth soccer players. Graduation year age groups is the only grouping that makes any sense.
tying youth sports to college is a mistake with boys. they should go to the college they will thrive at academically and continue playing soccer however they possibly can (semi pro, summer in europe, etc.) college soccer is generally not worth it for most boys - its not what they dream of and they will not be happy. for boys there's no reason to view college and soccer as a grouping.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostExactly! Standardized across the country! As long as colleges recruit by grad year, this is the way to go. There is no money in soccer in this country like there is for football, basketball, baseball, hockey. Parents aren’t holding their kids back in school so they can do better in youth soccer. As it is, the change to stupid birth year actually “held back” the players born in the first 9months of the year (for most state’s Aug/Sept cutoffs) and put them on teams with the younger grade. USSF thought this would give those older grade players an edge and help US Soccer. It didn’t. All it did was create major problems and drop soccer participation by over 15% and still dropping!
With all the many shortcomings of the US Soccer youth model....you think this age cut off date is reason for dropping participation by 15%?
Some one needs to explain the difference between causation and correlation.
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Looking at it from USSF’s side: It’s all about money and participation numbers. Changing to graduation year not only is standard across the country but also aligns with high school and college so will bring in more numbers and thus more money. Bigger player pools mean more possible elite players.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostLooking at it from USSF’s side: It’s all about money and participation numbers. Changing to graduation year not only is standard across the country but also aligns with high school and college so will bring in more numbers and thus more money. Bigger player pools mean more possible elite players.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostLooking at it from USSF’s side: It’s all about money and participation numbers. Changing to graduation year not only is standard across the country but also aligns with high school and college so will bring in more numbers and thus more money. Bigger player pools mean more possible elite players.
Graduation year > old Aug 1 to July 31st > birth year. Every grade has a team. Simple. Elite youth NT opportunities remain birth year. My kid is born in June so was “helped” by the change but is aging out and the mess that came with birth year was way more detrimental to her development than helpful. Colleges don’t care about anything but graduation year so going with that helps the most and is consistent across the USA.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI am not worried about it breaking up teams as USSF was never concerned about that when they broke up. My kids are both playing up at their club and I would imagine that would continue. The drag about the current set up is the trap for those born in September through December who end up as a senior without a team.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postthere is no money in college soccer on the men's side. maybe $10,000 a semester? if that. on the boys side, 99% of youth soccer players do NOT dream of college. they dream of playing professionally. it is just not a realistic goal, so instead of hanging up their cleats they play in college. No good boys player cares two sh** about playing in college, they just do it because the system in this country leaves them with no choice. but if you think on the boys side they are motivated by playing soccer in college, you are crazy. boys dream of national team, MLS, europe. They don't care about playing for north carolina or clemson. that's a parent thing trying to get return for our investment.
tying youth sports to college is a mistake with boys. they should go to the college they will thrive at academically and continue playing soccer however they possibly can (semi pro, summer in europe, etc.) college soccer is generally not worth it for most boys - its not what they dream of and they will not be happy. for boys there's no reason to view college and soccer as a grouping.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYou are completely wrong. YEs some boys "dream" of playing professionally, but as you said they know it's not a realistic goal. Then college ball becomes the new target. If you want to go pro you pretty much should skip college all together. But that is a fraction of male players. The rest aim for college soccer, regardless of the fact they won't get much $ to do so. There's nearly as many male players in college soccer as female - the females just have more D1 programs and scholarships.
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