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Not sure if we're talking about the same team. I may have some details wrong, but if a club holds tryouts and parents are on the sidelines during tryouts saying "this makes no sense" and the response from soccer families who hear about the tryout results later is "*** just happened and how is that possible?" it's not good.

....A player gets cut and nobody is responsible but the kid. Just goes to show what a racket this whole soccer pay-to-play deal is. All parents can do is make sure their kid is getting some enjoyment from playing despite the adults.

03 team. Sorry your kid got cut.

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not for the clubs..

Having all tryouts on the same day is one of the worst policies in youth soccer.

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No one is entitled to a roster spot, and I never called any clubs inferior. Some are smaller and play in less competitive leagues. Great players can come from anywhere, and great coaches can be found in all kinds of clubs.

What families and players should be entitled to is respect. If the team has been picked in advance, tell players in jeopardy straight up in advance so they have a chance to tryout elsewhere. Don't tell kids they're on the bubble for a team when actually the fix is in. Clubs want loyalty, fees and donations from families. They have a responsibility to treat kids with kindness and honesty. Elitism and entitlement isn't just coming from parents.

Clubs can only do so much. If your child has been told they are a “bubble” player, you should expect they are looking to upgrade.

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Clubs can only do so much. If your child has been told they are a “bubble” player, you should expect they are looking to upgrade.

I've been around soccer a long time with more than one player, and I've seen every tryout scenario. A kid often hears they're on the bubble because coach wants to motivate them to work harder or help them get out of a slump etc, not because the decision has already been made. Bubble kids often make the team.

No, the most the club can do if they've picked the team in advance is be honest and tell a player to look elsewhere before tryouts. I realize that directness is avoided here in the PNW and we're all supposed to speak in code and read the signs, but if you're dealing with a kid's future at college recruitment age, it's time to put on your big boy pants and do the right thing in terms of communication.

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Bubble kids are the first to be cut when better players from other clubs show up to tryouts.

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Bubble kids are the first to be cut when better players from other clubs show up to tryouts.

True, but in the case of a that SU ECNL team more than half dozen "on the bubble" showed up for SU tryouts vs trying luck elsewhere, which seems to point to unclear communication from the club. It's a new season and those kids have moved on...the bigger issue is that you hear these kind of stories about most youth clubs, even though it's absolutely possible to respectfully deliver bad news to a kid when you need to. The idolizing of "competition" allows coaches and clubs to get away with a lot of bad, self-serving behavior. We are dealing with kids here. First and foremost, soccer is supposed to be about fun, but instead it's an industry that's oriented around the adults. Parents do their part to suck the fun out of it too with their own bad bahavior. Parents also allow the ugliness to continue by accepting whatever clubs and coaches do, as long as it's not directed at our own kid. It's sad, because when everybody does step up and coaches and parents all act like adults who care about kids, soccer is a lot of fun.

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True, but in the case of a that SU ECNL team more than half dozen "on the bubble" showed up for SU tryouts vs trying luck elsewhere, which seems to point to unclear communication from the club. It's a new season and those kids have moved on...the bigger issue is that you hear these kind of stories about most youth clubs, even though it's absolutely possible to respectfully deliver bad news to a kid when you need to. The idolizing of "competition" allows coaches and clubs to get away with a lot of bad, self-serving behavior. We are dealing with kids here. First and foremost, soccer is supposed to be about fun, but instead it's an industry that's oriented around the adults. Parents do their part to suck the fun out of it too with their own bad bahavior. Parents also allow the ugliness to continue by accepting whatever clubs and coaches do, as long as it's not directed at our own kid. It's sad, because when everybody does step up and coaches and parents all act like adults who care about kids, soccer is a lot of fun.

Yes, this practice is unfortunate, why treat kids like this.

Imagine trying to get a job on the annual hiring day, and the employer you have scheduled your interview with knows before you show up whether or not you have a job, but cares so little for your well being that they don't have the decency to tell you to look elsewhere.

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That metaphor's not complete because the club benefits from you staying at the club if you don't make the higher team. They offer your kid a B team spot and keep the annual fees instead of sending those away to another club.

Yes, this practice is unfortunate, why treat kids like this.

Imagine trying to get a job on the annual hiring day, and the employer you have scheduled your interview with knows before you show up whether or not you have a job, but cares so little for your well being that they don't have the decency to tell you to look elsewhere.

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That metaphor's not complete because the club benefits from you staying at the club if you don't make the higher team. They offer your kid a B team spot and keep the annual fees instead of sending those away to another club.

Exactly. And in the case of SU ECNL, they would've stacked their Copa team with half a dozen demoted players who'd each bring 1-3 years of ECNL experience to RCL competition. Seemed like a great plan for SU...Some stayed but at least 2 girls were able to get ECNL spots at other clubs even though tryouts were over. A lot of needless stress for everyone that could've been avoided if players were the focus

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This discussion got dumb quick. You, the parent, and your wallet make the decisions here. Stop complaining. If you don’t like it, do something else. Stop acting like a victim.

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This discussion got dumb quick. You, the parent, and your wallet make the decisions here. Stop complaining. If you don’t like it, do something else. Stop acting like a victim.

Oh, we have. But why does someone else's experience make you so angry? Why don't you do something else besides bullying?

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Exactly. And in the case of SU ECNL, they would've stacked their Copa team with half a dozen demoted players who'd each bring 1-3 years of ECNL experience to RCL competition. Seemed like a great plan for SU...Some stayed but at least 2 girls were able to get ECNL spots at other clubs even though tryouts were over. A lot of needless stress for everyone that could've been avoided if players were the focus

How is this fair to the players who were promoted or were offered a spot from the outside clubs? Being upset your player was cut diminishes the effort and the talents of the players who made the team. This thread is very one-sided.

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How is this fair to the players who were promoted or were offered a spot from the outside clubs? Being upset your player was cut diminishes the effort and the talents of the players who made the team. This thread is very one-sided.

Sorry, I don't mean to diminish anyone's effort or accomplishments. All these girls work hard! My frustration is with clubs and coaches and how they deal with players. Roster changes are part of sports. Just be honest so families can make informed choices at tryout time. Treat people with respect. The process should be transparent and tough but not cruel.

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Oh, we have. But why does someone else's experience make you so angry? Why don't you do something else besides bullying?

I’m angry? I’m not the one complaining that life isn’t fair. Grow up and teach your child that not everyone gets a medal, and no matter how much mommy pays, ds isnt making the “a” team.

POS like you are exactly why parents feel they can bribe their child’s way into college. Further, you are the bully not me. Why the name calling you idiot!

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I’m angry? I’m not the one complaining that life isn’t fair. Grow up and teach your child that not everyone gets a medal, and no matter how much mommy pays, ds isnt making the “a” team.

POS like you are exactly why parents feel they can bribe their child’s way into college. Further, you are the bully not me. Why the name calling you idiot!

My mistake. You're clearly a stellar human. Have a great day.