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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    The GDA has more to do with US Soccer wanting to run ECNL out of town then the Timbers.

    It just presents a nice opportunity for the Timbers/Thorns. You are nuts if you think the two Oregon clubs have gotten stronger because of it.
    Didn't say "GDA". I said "Thornz Asylum". It's sole purpose was to ruin the ECNL clubs. Didn't work but did significantly tarnish the reputation of the Timbers.

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      #32
      There are many girls that are fine giving up high school soccer & other high school sports in order to play subsidized GDA. The boys have successfully been doing it for years now.

      Just think, the players that become the new high school stars with the GDA players gone are going to have a blast too. GDA, Ecnl or club will all work out great for everyone, with the exception of players #14-25 on GDA and, to a lesser degree, players 16-25 on Ecnl. Everyone else will get plenty of opportunities so pick your path & enjoy.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Didn't say "GDA". I said "Thornz Asylum". It's sole purpose was to ruin the ECNL clubs. Didn't work but did significantly tarnish the reputation of the Timbers.
        You are a little bit paranoid. Maybe the Thorns Academy was set up to give the TA kids a non ECNL option. Why would you want to have a club where all of your top players have to leave to go play for another club. You want to do what you can to keep you top payers. It is not rocket science.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          There are many girls that are fine giving up high school soccer & other high school sports in order to play subsidized GDA. The boys have successfully been doing it for years now.

          Just think, the players that become the new high school stars with the GDA players gone are going to have a blast too. GDA, Ecnl or club will all work out great for everyone, with the exception of players #14-25 on GDA and, to a lesser degree, players 16-25 on Ecnl. Everyone else will get plenty of opportunities so pick your path & enjoy.
          The 16's and 18's Timbers Academy have 5 subs per game. Girls USDA website states the following:

          How many players will be on a roster?

          As a combined age group, players are encouraged to play up. Clubs will have a number of players that they will move freely among age groups within their Academy program, depending on the developmental needs of the indvidual player. The projected pool would equate to 16-23 players per age group for a maximum 92 full-time players amongst the four age groups (U-14, U-15, U-16/17, and U-18/19).

          Therefore it will be players #16-23 on GDA who will be affected the most.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            No difference between a Timbers lemming and an idiot.
            Timbers lemming = ECNL lemming = idiot

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              My assumption is that the same very busy staff were given the job of slapping this together on top of their regular load of work on short notice. Seems like they haven't really thought a lot of this through.

              US Soccer says try out fees prohibited. Thorns are charging a very large fee.

              US Soccer says minimum required 4 trainings per week. Thorns say only 3.

              US Soccer says no high school activities. Thorns say maybe.

              Assumuption is that they might rally once they get a chance to review the rules and have some time.
              So they aren't following US Soccer guidelines?

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Didn't say "GDA". I said "Thornz Asylum". It's sole purpose was to ruin the ECNL clubs. Didn't work but did significantly tarnish the reputation of the Timbers.
                Timbers don't have a good track record with youth sports in my opinion.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  There are many girls that are fine giving up high school soccer & other high school sports in order to play subsidized GDA. The boys have successfully been doing it for years now.

                  Just think, the players that become the new high school stars with the GDA players gone are going to have a blast too. GDA, Ecnl or club will all work out great for everyone, with the exception of players #14-25 on GDA and, to a lesser degree, players 16-25 on Ecnl. Everyone else will get plenty of opportunities so pick your path & enjoy.
                  Actually, there aren't "many" willing to give up HS soccer. There are a few, but a very few, and that's mostly because they are friendless outcasts at their schools.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    The 16's and 18's Timbers Academy have 5 subs per game. Girls USDA website states the following:

                    How many players will be on a roster?

                    As a combined age group, players are encouraged to play up. Clubs will have a number of players that they will move freely among age groups within their Academy program, depending on the developmental needs of the indvidual player. The projected pool would equate to 16-23 players per age group for a maximum 92 full-time players amongst the four age groups (U-14, U-15, U-16/17, and U-18/19).

                    Therefore it will be players #16-23 on GDA who will be affected the most.
                    Thus far, Thorns GDA isn't following anything that is posted on the USDA website so anything USDA says doesn't apply. Minimum 4x trainings/wk? No, max 2 or 3 for Thorns. Prohibited from charging a tryout fee? No, Thorns is charging $125. No other high school sports? No, Thorns says sure, maybe, it's not like we're going to be busy with development soccer or anything. Only one game per week? No, Thorns will do double headers. Maintain optimum development of at least 4 trainings to 1 game ratio? No, Thorns will have 2 or 3 trainings to 2 games ratios.

                    Thorns might be playing in the GDA league but isn't following the GDA posted rules/program in the least. Wish they were. Thorns could easily take 30 per roster and only play the top 11 all game. They aren't following the other "rules" so why would they follow the 25% start rule? There is obviously no accountability for the Thorns to do anything as prescribed by USDA. Thorns gets to do whatever it wants. Heard that's keeping the existing starters and playing them all game every game. Players 12-23 or ?? should worry big time.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Thus far, Thorns GDA isn't following anything that is posted on the USDA website so anything USDA says doesn't apply. Minimum 4x trainings/wk? No, max 2 or 3 for Thorns. Prohibited from charging a tryout fee? No, Thorns is charging $125. No other high school sports? No, Thorns says sure, maybe, it's not like we're going to be busy with development soccer or anything. Only one game per week? No, Thorns will do double headers. Maintain optimum development of at least 4 trainings to 1 game ratio? No, Thorns will have 2 or 3 trainings to 2 games ratios.

                      Thorns might be playing in the GDA league but isn't following the GDA posted rules/program in the least. Wish they were. Thorns could easily take 30 per roster and only play the top 11 all game. They aren't following the other "rules" so why would they follow the 25% start rule? There is obviously no accountability for the Thorns to do anything as prescribed by USDA. Thorns gets to do whatever it wants. Heard that's keeping the existing starters and playing them all game every game. Players 12-23 or ?? should worry big time.
                      If you'e not involved with the Thorns Academy and the new GDA fo 2017/2018, why do your work so hard to trash talk a program that you won't be involved in?

                      Are you a coach or club board member afraid of potentially losing players?

                      Are you a parent concerned about your DD's team mates possibly opting to find another option?

                      Or are you just a bitter person, ready to lash out at anything outside of your own comfort zone?

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        If you'e not involved with the Thorns Academy and the new GDA fo 2017/2018, why do your work so hard to trash talk a program that you won't be involved in?

                        Are you a coach or club board member afraid of potentially losing players?

                        Are you a parent concerned about your DD's team mates possibly opting to find another option?

                        Or are you just a bitter person, ready to lash out at anything outside of your own comfort zone?
                        Not OP, but there are so many reasons to dislike the Timbers - greedy, conniving, conflicts' filled, poor follow through, kind of totalitarian - don't really know where to begin.

                        However, the GDA has some really interesting pieces: there are a bunch of high and mighty absolutes from the Federation as to how a team/league should be run pronounced by bureaucrats. One could certainly ask for the empirical basis for their absolutism; however, they are some coaches who genuinely believe in them. Fine.

                        No daughter in the ECNL, just genuinely dislike the Timbers.

                        signed,

                        many people

                        Yet, the GDA as rolled out and in this case with respect to the Thorns, seems to be deviated mightily from many of those "rules".

                        So, really there are many, many reasons to dislike the Thorns Academy.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Not OP, but there are so many reasons to dislike the Timbers - greedy, conniving, conflicts' filled, poor follow through, kind of totalitarian - don't really know where to begin.

                          However, the GDA has some really interesting pieces: there are a bunch of high and mighty absolutes from the Federation as to how a team/league should be run pronounced by bureaucrats. One could certainly ask for the empirical basis for their absolutism; however, they are some coaches who genuinely believe in them. Fine.

                          Yet, the GDA as rolled out and in this case with respect to the Thorns, seems to be deviated mightily from many of those "rules".

                          So, really there are many, many reasons to dislike the Thorns Academy.

                          No daughter in the ECNL, just genuinely dislike the Timbers.

                          signed,

                          many people
                          corrected formatting

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                            #43
                            Get your facts straight, again someone is just pulling bs from their butt and posting it as truth.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              If you'e not involved with the Thorns Academy and the new GDA fo 2017/2018, why do your work so hard to trash talk a program that you won't be involved in?

                              Are you a coach or club board member afraid of potentially losing players?

                              Are you a parent concerned about your DD's team mates possibly opting to find another option?

                              Or are you just a bitter person, ready to lash out at anything outside of your own comfort zone?
                              I am not the OP but I'll answer. Not a coach at all and not a parent affiliated with academy or ECNL. My DD plays on an alliance team and we are geographically far away so aren't losing players to either ECNL or academy. If anything academy benefits us as it may weaken some of our competition.

                              In spite of all that I do not like or support what academy has done so far. It seems like stereotypical bait and switch. Promise 4 practices a week, deliver 2-3. Promise one game per weekend, deliver double headers. Promise a new and improved development philosophy...and I see absolutely nothing different or better than what my DD's team is doing. Academy players may be better. They may win more games. But it's the same old same old wrapped in a shiny new package. As a consumer that bothers me even though it doesn't directly impact me. Does that answer your question?

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                My assumption is that the same very busy staff were given the job of slapping this together on top of their regular load of work on short notice. Seems like they haven't really thought a lot of this through.

                                US Soccer says try out fees prohibited. Thorns are charging a very large fee.

                                US Soccer says minimum required 4 trainings per week. Thorns say only 3.

                                US Soccer says no high school activities. Thorns say maybe.

                                Assumuption is that they might rally once they get a chance to review the rules and have some time.
                                I don't think anyone has to follow the US Soccer rules if they don't want to. This is a non issue.

                                Who really cares if it's 3 or 4 practices per week?

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