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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    I understand the reasoning for the ECNL composite. The argument is why make schools with a limited recruitment budget D2 and D3 attend different events (especially at the older age group). I do not buy into "they have there own thing" line from ECNL.

    I am certain either way the coaches will show up if they are interested in a player though it will only make it harder because they might have to decide which event they can attend due to budget limitations and they will not be able to see several players at once if they play at different levels (ECNL or ECNL Composite).

    This is why you go to school ID CAMPS in favor or in addition these tournaments. The coaches want to talk to the player and see them compete against their current players. Ask any coach. The decisions and offers mostly come after school ID camps and not after tournaments. This is where the athlete must do the work. "Lazy" is showing up to tournaments and hoping you will get offers from a coach sitting on the sidelines and watching your child play.

    Nobody makes a decision from just one viewing. This is why coaches ask players to go to their ID camps AFTER the tournament if this is their first exposure to the athlete.

    It is better to be proactive, contact the coaches before the event, give them your info., schedule, etc.,speak with them if possible and then hope they show up to the event. If they are interested they will make the trip to the event or if they are already there; actually show up to your game, otherwise you know they are not interested.
    Exacrly. And I think we are seeing college coaches and the players having to budget their money and time. Putting the oldest ecnl Composite teams at least at the same events (perhaps at a later time) helps. Clubs bus all their teams togetherincluding the u18/u19 Composite team to game weekends. Players are fighting to find the time and money to attend college ID camps too. The best opportunities to be seen by the coaches are needed, not a separate ecnl event only for Composite teams.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Does every club participating in the southeast ECNL have U16 and U18/U19 B Composite teams?
      The ECNL website has the teams under each club's page. 5 clubs have Girls Composite teams at U18/19. None at U16.

      BUSA
      GSA
      FESA
      FKK
      Tampa

      That is it mon ami !!!

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        #33
        Last year - the first year for the composite teams in ECNL (not the Composite Showcase - it started two years ago) - less than half the clubs had composite teams in the SEC. With the way the clubs games were set up they would only have one game per weekend - so they didn't "ride the bus" since they only played one day of the weekend. Even if clubs did have composite teams there were many instances where they didn't want to play, so the games didn't happen. Not sure how many clubs will actually have the composite teams this year.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Last year - the first year for the composite teams in ECNL (not the Composite Showcase - it started two years ago) - less than half the clubs had composite teams in the SEC. With the way the clubs games were set up they would only have one game per weekend - so they didn't "ride the bus" since they only played one day of the weekend. Even if clubs did have composite teams there were many instances where they didn't want to play, so the games didn't happen. Not sure how many clubs will actually have the composite teams this year.
          Read prior post !

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Last year - the first year for the composite teams in ECNL (not the Composite Showcase - it started two years ago) - less than half the clubs had composite teams in the SEC. With the way the clubs games were set up they would only have one game per weekend - so they didn't "ride the bus" since they only played one day of the weekend. Even if clubs did have composite teams there were many instances where they didn't want to play, so the games didn't happen. Not sure how many clubs will actually have the composite teams this year.
            Do the ECNL clubs outside of Florida not have enough Elite players to have a U19/U18' composite team?

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              The ECNL website has the teams under each club's page. 5 clubs have Girls Composite teams at U18/19. None at U16.

              BUSA
              GSA
              FESA
              FKK
              Tampa

              That is it mon ami !!!
              Thanks. Well if there are not many Composite teams to play one another then do the teams play in the NPL too? And no need to have a separate Composite showcase , but have the Composite ecnl teams play at the Sanford ECNL National event after the main games.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Do the ECNL clubs outside of Florida not have enough Elite players to have a U19/U18' composite team?
                The SEC is made up of ten teams.

                The folllowing 5 have Composite teams teams at U18/19.

                BUSA-Alabama
                GSA-Georgia
                FESA-Florida
                FKK-Florida
                Tampa-Florida

                Then you have clubs that also have GDA's so why bother with composite when the talent
                is thinned already between GDA and ECNL. These include:

                Tophat-Georgia
                Concorde-Georgia
                Orlando City-Florida

                This only leaves Jacksonville and Atlanta Fire who did not want to bother as they deem it a hassle. They would rather have their B teams play NPL and State Cup / Athena A League in Georgia.

                No more clubs mon ami.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  The SEC is made up of ten teams.

                  The folllowing 5 have Composite teams teams at U18/19.

                  BUSA-Alabama
                  GSA-Georgia
                  FESA-Florida
                  FKK-Florida
                  Tampa-Florida

                  Then you have clubs that also have GDA's so why bother with composite when the talent
                  is thinned already between GDA and ECNL. These include:

                  Tophat-Georgia
                  Concorde-Georgia
                  Orlando City-Florida

                  This only leaves Jacksonville and Atlanta Fire who did not want to bother as they deem it a hassle. They would rather have their B teams play NPL and State Cup / Athena A League in Georgia.

                  No more clubs mon ami.
                  A hassle or they didn't have the numbers to make a team justifiable. You're either recruited by then or you're not, so fielding a solid team in that age group is tough. Some clubs are taking on huge rosters per age group then putting the overflow onto a composite team. That's just a money grab. If you're not going to be on a roster regularly for your age group and they offer you composite? Go elsewhere.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    The SEC is made up of ten teams.

                    The folllowing 5 have Composite teams teams at U18/19.

                    BUSA-Alabama
                    GSA-Georgia
                    FESA-Florida
                    FKK-Florida
                    Tampa-Florida

                    Then you have clubs that also have GDA's so why bother with composite when the talent
                    is thinned already between GDA and ECNL. These include:

                    Tophat-Georgia
                    Concorde-Georgia
                    Orlando City-Florida

                    This only leaves Jacksonville and Atlanta Fire who did not want to bother as they deem it a hassle. They would rather have their B teams play NPL and State Cup / Athena A League in Georgia.

                    No more clubs mon ami.

                    The GDA clubs have gotten around this by setting up dual/composite age group teams for the older groups from the start.

                    2017/18 season

                    U14 – 2004
                    U15 – 2003
                    U17 - 2001-2002
                    U19 – 1999-2000

                    2018/19 season

                    U14 – 2005
                    U15 – 2004
                    U17 - 2002-2003
                    U19 – 2000-2001

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                      #40
                      There's going to be a new showcase and it's going to be tremendous. It's going to be so tremendous only stars with a tremendous amount of star power will play in them. No one has ever seen a tournament like this before. It will be the best of the best and its gonna be Uuugggggeeee.

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                        #41
                        Flawed System

                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        A hassle or they didn't have the numbers to make a team justifiable. You're either recruited by then or you're not, so fielding a solid team in that age group is tough. Some clubs are taking on huge rosters per age group then putting the overflow onto a composite team. That's just a money grab. If you're not going to be on a roster regularly for your age group and they offer you composite? Go elsewhere.
                        Your child will be recruited if they have talent. The question as mentioned in another thread is: Does your child want to go to that school? Is it the right fit?

                        Is a composite team the right answer? It depends on the situation. It really comes to exposure. Exposure does not just come from tournaments. It comes from doing your homework, contacting coaches sending video, resumes etc. It also comes from attending ID camps if the coaches show any interest after your contacts.

                        I know players that played on poor teams at the State Cup level and now play college ball not based on the team's performance in tournaments but excelling in and having strong performances at ID Camps.

                        Is the system flawed for ECNL Composite teams ?? At this time, I would say yes.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          The SEC is made up of ten teams.

                          The folllowing 5 have Composite teams teams at U18/19.

                          BUSA-Alabama
                          GSA-Georgia
                          FESA-Florida
                          FKK-Florida
                          Tampa-Florida

                          Then you have clubs that also have GDA's so why bother with composite when the talent
                          is thinned already between GDA and ECNL. These include:

                          Tophat-Georgia
                          Concorde-Georgia
                          Orlando City-Florida

                          This only leaves Jacksonville and Atlanta Fire who did not want to bother as they deem it a hassle. They would rather have their B teams play NPL and State Cup / Athena A League in Georgia.

                          No more clubs mon ami.
                          Now get why JAcksonville and OC do not have enough Elite players u17 and up to make a Composite team. How many total ECNL teams are in the southeast? How about the other regions and How many total Composite teams are there to make it worth it to do a Composite showcase in Palm Coast? Make more sense to have the Composite teams attend a National ecnl showcase event and play games there instead. Then they will get the college exposure.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Your child will be recruited if they have talent. The question as mentioned in another thread is: Does your child want to go to that school? Is it the right fit?

                            Is a composite team the right answer? It depends on the situation. It really comes to exposure. Exposure does not just come from tournaments. It comes from doing your homework, contacting coaches sending video, resumes etc. It also comes from attending ID camps if the coaches show any interest after your contacts.

                            I know players that played on poor teams at the State Cup level and now play college ball not based on the team's performance in tournaments but excelling in and having strong performances at ID Camps.

                            Is the system flawed for ECNL Composite teams ?? At this time, I would say yes.
                            The Composite ECNL team for the oldest ages has the right concept of offering elite players who just missed the ECNL 18 roster a high level ECNL-like team and to play similar like teams. The separate showcase is the only thing that needs changed now to get the players the exposure they need.

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                              #44
                              Exposure

                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              The Composite ECNL team for the oldest ages has the right concept of offering elite players who just missed the ECNL 18 roster a high level ECNL-like team and to play similar like teams. The separate showcase is the only thing that needs changed now to get the players the exposure they need.
                              How about the lack of games? So you have 5 clubs in the SEC with composite teams so IF you play the other 4 clubs twice that gives you a whopping 8 games. ONLY if the other clubs do not back out or scrap the games like they have done in the past at times.

                              What are you doing the rest of the time ? "blowing bubbles" ;)

                              Sure you can play tournaments but it still limits significantly your so called "exposure".

                              Do you still think it has no flaws?? Really ???

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                How about the lack of games? So you have 5 clubs in the SEC with composite teams so IF you play the other 4 clubs twice that gives you a whopping 8 games. ONLY if the other clubs do not back out or scrap the games like they have done in the past at times.

                                What are you doing the rest of the time ? "blowing bubbles" ;)

                                Sure you can play tournaments but it still limits significantly your so called "exposure".

                                Do you still think it has no flaws?? Really ???
                                College coaches aren't hanging out at Composite or NPL games or ECNL games for that matter.
                                Playing eight quality teams even if twice is still better competition. The Composite ecnl league has the right idea but needs all the ecnl clubs on board. I can see why ecnl did not want clubs going to DA to keep their ecnl because it waters down their platform and the ecnl second team pools. But people need to stop treating the senior Composite ecnl teams as "washed up". The point of these Composite teams is to have a strong second tier to continue developing for the first team when needed. If you don't have a solid B ecnl league then the players who do not make the first ecnl team will leave the club for GDA or anything. Also, a Composite team allows advanced u17 players to play up in the u18/u19 too. So this year you will have mainly 2000 juniors and seniors, 1999 seniors, and some 2001 sophomores on the Composite teams. The ecnl Composite team concept is a young idea and must be implemented correctly and with all the ecnl clubs backing it. The ecnl leaders, club DOCs, and coaches need to come together and find ways to make it work and treat the Composite teams not as a separate entity but integral to the whole success of ECNL. The ECNL Composite teams must have a place at the main ECNL Showcase events. The Composite teams must feel a part and get the exposure. So be proactive and tweak things now before the ECNL season begins. Ecnl composite players will not pay the same ecnl team fees if they are getting treated like second class citizens.

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