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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postas the hubby to an immunologist, gotta chime in on a topic that she and her colleagues talk about day & night. nut allergies are what doctors call mass psychogenic illness. its when a relatively minor illness becomes an epidemic due to the masses having irrational fear for the illness. nut allergies are real and symptoms can range from itching to anaphylaxis to death. thats what causes fear - here are some facts (my wife has handouts she gives parents):
-fewer than 200 food-related allergy deaths occur in the us annually (for all foods including shellfish)
-even severely allergic patients need to consume a massive amount of nuts to die, even anaphylaxis requires much more than just contact or residual quantities
-rather than avoiding nuts, numerous studies have proven that gradual exposure to nuts will reduce symptoms and in most cased eliminate the allergy
-there is a strong correlation between ethnicity/income level and nut allergy diagnosis... meaning Kaden in Greenwich is 11x more likely to have an allergy than Pedro in Bridgeport
simply stated, more people die from coconuts falling from trees each year (around 180) than from ingesting tree nuts (fewer than 100).
while off topic, it does connect to the point about our society going nuts (pun intended) about protecting our kids from real AND perceived dangers.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSo, your wife is really saying that nut allergies are only in our kids heads? So when my kid ate his first candy bar with nuts in it at 3 years old, his face didn't really blow up like a balloon and he didn't spot it out immediately because he said it was hot? While desensitization is a very good strategy to help people with allergies tolerate some foods like nuts much better it is a relatively very new practice that has only been accepted within the last few years. Perhaps the reason so few people die because of these severe allergies is awareness, precaution in schools to limit exposure, and the prevalence and quick administration of drugs like Benadryl and epinephrine. Are accidents between bigger, faster cars on faster highways not as deadly today as 60 years ago or are the cars just far safer (crumple zones, seat belts, air bags, antilock brakes, accident prevention systems, roll bars in high end sports cars .....)?
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Deaths are infrequent in the US because of the widespread availability of epi pens and other treatments, public awareness and education. Deaths are not common in other countries because the frequency of such allergies is much lower. That is because our kids increasingly live in sanitized, air conditioned bubbles, not getting exposed to allergic triggers. And for many years the US doctors had it all wrong - they told pregnant women not to consumer nuts, when in fact now it's shown that eating nuts during pregnancy helps safely expose the baby to possible allergens. Breast fed babies are also much more likely to not have allergies.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSo, your wife is really saying that nut allergies are only in our kids heads? So when my kid ate his first candy bar with nuts in it at 3 years old, his face didn't really blow up like a balloon and he didn't spot it out immediately because he said it was hot? While desensitization is a very good strategy to help people with allergies tolerate some foods like nuts much better it is a relatively very new practice that has only been accepted within the last few years. Perhaps the reason so few people die because of these severe allergies is awareness, precaution in schools to limit exposure, and the prevalence and quick administration of drugs like Benadryl and epinephrine. Are accidents between bigger, faster cars on faster highways not as deadly today as 60 years ago or are the cars just far safer (crumple zones, seat belts, air bags, antilock brakes, accident prevention systems, roll bars in high end sports cars .....)?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNo. Your kid should have eaten his first nuts as an infant and while his reaction was very unpleasant, it would only be fatal if he ate a case of the nuts. The reaction is a natural deterrent to prevent him from consuming more nuts.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThanks doctor, are you sure? He had a full anaphylactic reaction to them that forced his eyes shut ..... we did not wait for his throat to close before calling the hospital NICU. When my son was little, it was not en vogue to introduce patients with allergies to the source. That is relatively new as I stated in my earlier post.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postas the hubby to an immunologist, gotta chime in on a topic that she and her colleagues talk about day & night. nut allergies are what doctors call mass psychogenic illness. its when a relatively minor illness becomes an epidemic due to the masses having irrational fear for the illness. nut allergies are real and symptoms can range from itching to anaphylaxis to death. thats what causes fear - here are some facts (my wife has handouts she gives parents):
-fewer than 200 food-related allergy deaths occur in the us annually (for all foods including shellfish)
-even severely allergic patients need to consume a massive amount of nuts to die, even anaphylaxis requires much more than just contact or residual quantities
-rather than avoiding nuts, numerous studies have proven that gradual exposure to nuts will reduce symptoms and in most cased eliminate the allergy
-there is a strong correlation between ethnicity/income level and nut allergy diagnosis... meaning Kaden in Greenwich is 11x more likely to have an allergy than Pedro in Bridgeport
simply stated, more people die from coconuts falling from trees each year (around 180) than from ingesting tree nuts (fewer than 100).
while off topic, it does connect to the point about our society going nuts (pun intended) about protecting our kids from real AND perceived dangers.
Sorry to be so blunt.
Have witnessed 2 near deaths from tree nut ingestion
The kid had no concept of your absurd theory.
Eat nuts accidendently, body goes crazy, respitory system
shuts down, parents go to training, punch the Epipen, administer
Benedryle, EMS on the way, holding the kid close while EMS
on the way saying it will be OK, feel the kid slipping away in your arms and
praying EMS will be in time, EMS crashes your house, grab the the kid
and brings her back, run her to the hospital where she recovers.
You are a ****ing idiot.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYou are a ****ing idiot.
Sorry to be so blunt.
Have witnessed 2 near deaths from tree nut ingestion
The kid had no concept of your absurd theory.
Eat nuts accidendently, body goes crazy, respitory system
shuts down, parents go to training, punch the Epipen, administer
Benedryle, EMS on the way, holding the kid close while EMS
on the way saying it will be OK, feel the kid slipping away in your arms and
praying EMS will be in time, EMS crashes your house, grab the the kid
and brings her back, run her to the hospital where she recovers.
You are a ****ing idiot.
Sample size of 2 out of a US population of 300,000,000.
A very relevant counterpoint written by someone who cant even spell accidentally or respiratory.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostPS - Was the point of your wife's handouts that kid's nowadays are a bunch of fakers or that immunologists have really earned their pay? Perhaps that the medical community has fostered and created this hysteria and can do nothing to disprove it? That pharmaceutical companies are capable of creating irrational, physical symptoms in order to sell product?
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