PDA White, BLUE, RL, or Waste of Time

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Correct and also look at most D1 recruiting classes, at least 70-80% (and in some cases 100%) are ECNL. So that’s very concerning if you’re playing GA or USYS. Can you make it out of those leagues? Yes, but you better be a standout!

Not sure of where you are looking but https://www.ecnlgirls.com/2019/11/25...ences-in-2019/ says just for P5 conferences it varies between 54-71%. I also don't see a whole lot of NE and NA players mentioned.

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We can argue about this with 10 pages of posts but it will always come down to the individual player, it’s that simple. The higher level of college soccer program the higher level of player will be recruited. You want to compare by leagues and that’s too general. With ECNL the top core players will get the most exposure to the top colleges while the middle tier players will get recruited by middle tier colleges. The back end of ECNL rosters will then be looked at for middle tier to the rest of college soccer teams. Even with ECNL the tiers matter of where you are on the team. Coaches know who the top core players are when looking at players. As far as GA, RL, EDP, etc. it will all come down is best fit for a particular program and what that coach is looking for in the future for there roster. Coaches will always reach for the higher rated players but know the level of talent they will/can attract. These colleges know more than you think about clubs, team, and players. They just don’t show up at a field to watch a game. That’s not how it works. Let me make this very clear; ECNL gives the player the best opportunities but it’s still up to the play individually to perform under pressure and stand out. Playing ECNL does not guarantee the player anything. The middle tier player or back end of the roster does not guarantee you a college commitment to a high level program. That’s a fact.

Something we went through and was a bit of a head scratcher. What happens when a very good player, who was invited to regional camps, trys out for blue but is offered white because blue has too many players playing at the defensive back positions. We know
two of the backs because they were at the same camp. They are both starters for Blue. All 3 players are well rated at the camps. The other defensive backs on blue are not of same quality. But very good players. Would you accept the white assignment? or seek your fortune somewhere else ? Our experience led me to understand, that sometime very good players at a particular position can be out of luck because a club like PDA is all set in that position. Now is that girl and inferior player to the other backs? or is the dynamics of any team like a PDA Blue simply more complicated than the best players make the team. People are always saying best players make a team. but it doesn't really work like that, It really depends on wha a team is in need of at a particular age group.

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Something we went through and was a bit of a head scratcher. What happens when a very good player, who was invited to regional camps, trys out for blue but is offered white because blue has too many players playing at the defensive back positions. We know
two of the backs because they were at the same camp. They are both starters for Blue. All 3 players are well rated at the camps. The other defensive backs on blue are not of same quality. But very good players. Would you accept the white assignment? or seek your fortune somewhere else ? Our experience led me to understand, that sometime very good players at a particular position can be out of luck because a club like PDA is all set in that position. Now is that girl and inferior player to the other backs? or is the dynamics of any team like a PDA Blue simply more complicated than the best players make the team. People are always saying best players make a team. but it doesn't really work like that, It really depends on wha a team is in need of at a particular age group.

The circumstances you mention unfortunately happens especially when your talking about the top team in NJ (PDA Blue). Defense is a very tough position to break in and play because they are rarely subbed other than to give the starter a 10 minute breather. Other players have moved on to other ECNL teams. The difference is that those players have already been identified and let the college coaches they have been in touch with about the move for more playing time. If the college coaches have no issue with the players going to White then they stay. If not then go to another ECNL club.

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The circumstances you mention unfortunately happens especially when your talking about the top team in NJ (PDA Blue). Defense is a very tough position to break in and play because they are rarely subbed other than to give the starter a 10 minute breather. Other players have moved on to other ECNL teams. The difference is that those players have already been identified and let the college coaches they have been in touch with about the move for more playing time. If the college coaches have no issue with the players going to White then they stay. If not then go to another ECNL club.

how much worse is the white team than the blue team. Is there that big of a drop off?

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how much worse is the white team than the blue team. Is there that big of a drop off?

It’s not an issue of worse. There is nothing worse about playing White. They have there fair share of talent as well as college commitments and in relation to other ECNL teams they have a more talented core group of players. The issue becomes playing time. Do you want to sit because there are better players ahead of you or do want to play more minutes and showcase your talent on a very good ECNL team. It’s a question of playing time.

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how much worse is the white team than the blue team. Is there that big of a drop off?

Slight drop off but different conference. Blue gets the auto nod for ECNL Champions League and a cake walk to Nationals by beating on a weak conference that White could easily compete in. White sometimes isn't an option for player coming north to the team since they play in NY, CT and Mass.

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Slight drop off but different conference. Blue gets the auto nod for ECNL Champions League and a cake walk to Nationals by beating on a weak conference that White could easily compete in. White sometimes isn't an option for player coming north to the team since they play in NY, CT and Mass.

Do players get called up to play blue if blue wants a particular player, or is it hands off to protect the integrity and strength of the white. afterall, they both compete in The Ecnl.

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Do players get called up to play blue if blue wants a particular player, or is it hands off to protect the integrity and strength of the white. afterall, they both compete in The Ecnl.

Two set separate rosters. There is no movement. Two entirely different teams.

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Two set separate rosters. There is no movement. Two entirely different teams.

BLUE get first pick during tryouts, White gets whats left.

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We can argue about this with 10 pages of posts but it will always come down to the individual player, it’s that simple. The higher level of college soccer program the higher level of player will be recruited. You want to compare by leagues and that’s too general. With ECNL the top core players will get the most exposure to the top colleges while the middle tier players will get recruited by middle tier colleges. The back end of ECNL rosters will then be looked at for middle tier to the rest of college soccer teams. Even with ECNL the tiers matter of where you are on the team. Coaches know who the top core players are when looking at players. As far as GA, RL, EDP, etc. it will all come down is best fit for a particular program and what that coach is looking for in the future for there roster. Coaches will always reach for the higher rated players but know the level of talent they will/can attract. These colleges know more than you think about clubs, team, and players. They just don’t show up at a field to watch a game. That’s not how it works. Let me make this very clear; ECNL gives the player the best opportunities but it’s still up to the play individually to perform under pressure and stand out. Playing ECNL does not guarantee the player anything. The middle tier player or back end of the roster does not guarantee you a college commitment to a high level program. That’s a fact.

With you until " ECNL give the player the best opportunities". Opportunities for what ? The players talent creates their opportunity. Where they choose to develop it is usually a function of many things.

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If Rutgers women's soccer represents the best of PDA. Just watch them and decide if that is for you. You have all the evidence you need of what PDAs finest look like as a team vs other College teams. The whole Blue White thing seems irrelevant if you have that. I assume the goal for these kids is College.

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With you until " ECNL give the player the best opportunities". Opportunities for what ? The players talent creates their opportunity. Where they choose to develop it is usually a function of many things.

The opportunity means attending and playing in ECNL showcases and tournament events where traditionally college coaches from all four regions attend to watch specific players. ECNL creates the environment/event (opportunity) it’s then up to the player to rise to the occasion to play at a high level in the highest level of competition in girls soccer against other ECNL players. The competitiveness of ECNL is what draws colleges. “If a tree falls in a forest who hears it”? With ECNL players ECNL gives players the best opportunities to show their individual skills for everyone college coach to see.

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If Rutgers women's soccer represents the best of PDA. Just watch them and decide if that is for you. You have all the evidence you need of what PDAs finest look like as a team vs other College teams. The whole Blue White thing seems irrelevant if you have that. I assume the goal for these kids is College.

class of 2021 has 51 PDA commits.

It appears only 6 of the 51 are from the graduating white team.


4 of the 6 girls from white are D1 commits

1 is a D2

1 is a D3

15 girls on white not committed anywhere!

That seems awfully low for an ECNl team that is comparable to Blue.


Does any one have any further info regarding this stat. It just seems wrong.

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The opportunity means attending and playing in ECNL showcases and tournament events where traditionally college coaches from all four regions attend to watch specific players. ECNL creates the environment/event (opportunity) it’s then up to the player to rise to the occasion to play at a high level in the highest level of competition in girls soccer against other ECNL players. The competitiveness of ECNL is what draws colleges. “If a tree falls in a forest who hears it”? With ECNL players ECNL gives players the best opportunities to show their individual skills for everyone college coach to see.

Please ask College coaches how many random kids they recruit from accidentally seeing them at a showcase.

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class of 2021 has 51 PDA commits.

It appears only 6 of the 51 are from the graduating white team.


4 of the 6 girls from white are D1 commits

1 is a D2

1 is a D3

15 girls on white not committed anywhere!

That seems awfully low for an ECNl team that is comparable to Blue.


Does any one have any further info regarding this stat. It just seems wrong.

Don’t have a kid on that team. But! The white team had/has amazing kids when I saw them 2 years ago. That being said... last 2 years has not been good for recruiting AND white team is not going out of its way to showcase players.