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    Youth Soccer Assesment Grid- Where should we stop?

    After many years in the trenches and talking with other players/coaches in club soccer, the one common theme I’ve noticed with kids, is that parents start them in club soccer and simply go along for the ride for the first few years, seeing how high their soccer talent takes them. For the first few years, this is pretty harmless, but then all of a sudden, they close in on the U15 and above years, and some are now paying big big bucks, and traveling everywhere for top teams without yet ever reassessing what their end goal and potential is, and whether they needed to actually go to or stay at the very top of the youth soccer pyramid at all.

    Now, if you are a family that has the disposable income, and available schedule time to spend and travel for one of these top teams, and your child is happy there, then by all means have it and more power to you. But more and more, I have seen many families struggle to keep up with the costs and travel, as well as kids losing the love of the game due to the commitment and stress of all the sacrifice in the name of “elite” level soccer (and sports in general). If this is the case, its time to do that assessment NOW, and hopefully some newbies will go into in with their eyes a bit more open. Obviously the youth soccer landscape seems to change ALL THE FREAKING TIME, so this assessment grid would need to be updated continuously to reflect changes. But here it is as I see it right now.

    ASSESMENT GRID -

    *** If money, time, commitment, sacrifice and happiness is no issue - By all means keep following the soccer pyramid up as high as your child’s talent will take them.

    *** If one or more of these above factors start becoming an issue, its time to assess what soccer level your child NEEDS (at minimum) to play at, in order to reach their desired goals, assuming that the talent level is present to realisitically meet those goals (unicorns and rare outliers not included. There are exceptions to all of these, but this is a GENERAL guideline).

    DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY: NT and High Level D1 Soccer as end goal. No High School Soccer allowed, and other serious sport commitments are very unrealistic based on training and travel commitments of most every DA team/club.

    ECNL: NT and High Level D1 Soccer as end goal. Other serious sport committments are very unrealistic based on training and travel commitments of most every ECNL team/club.

    TOP HALF NPL: Mid to low D1, D2, or D3 Soccer as end goal. Will need to work to get in front of targeted college coaches a bit more especially for D1 level, but it can be done. Other serious sports commitments are harder to pull off, but can usually be managed if soccer always comes first, and you have the right coach situation on both ends.

    BOTTOM HALF NPL: Low D1, D2, or D3 Soccer as end goal. As with Top Half NPL, your player will need to work harder to get in front of the targeted college coaches, but it can be done. Other serious sports commitment are a bit easier to participate in, but you still might find heavy resistance from some coaches to allow you to always put another sport first.

    TOP HALF NEP/SOME TOP NSL: Some low D2 and mid to Low D3 soccer as end goal. Top players on these teams can find a home on one of these college rosters if they want one. Much more freedom to participate in other sports at a high level.

    REST OF NEP/NSL: Varsity High School Soccer as end goal.

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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    After many years in the trenches and talking with other players/coaches in club soccer, the one common theme I’ve noticed with kids, is that parents start them in club soccer and simply go along for the ride for the first few years, seeing how high their soccer talent takes them. For the first few years, this is pretty harmless, but then all of a sudden, they close in on the U15 and above years, and some are now paying big big bucks, and traveling everywhere for top teams without yet ever reassessing what their end goal and potential is, and whether they needed to actually go to or stay at the very top of the youth soccer pyramid at all.

    Now, if you are a family that has the disposable income, and available schedule time to spend and travel for one of these top teams, and your child is happy there, then by all means have it and more power to you. But more and more, I have seen many families struggle to keep up with the costs and travel, as well as kids losing the love of the game due to the commitment and stress of all the sacrifice in the name of “elite” level soccer (and sports in general). If this is the case, its time to do that assessment NOW, and hopefully some newbies will go into in with their eyes a bit more open. Obviously the youth soccer landscape seems to change ALL THE FREAKING TIME, so this assessment grid would need to be updated continuously to reflect changes. But here it is as I see it right now.

    ASSESMENT GRID -

    *** If money, time, commitment, sacrifice and happiness is no issue - By all means keep following the soccer pyramid up as high as your child’s talent will take them.

    *** If one or more of these above factors start becoming an issue, its time to assess what soccer level your child NEEDS (at minimum) to play at, in order to reach their desired goals, assuming that the talent level is present to realisitically meet those goals (unicorns and rare outliers not included. There are exceptions to all of these, but this is a GENERAL guideline).

    DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY: NT and High Level D1 Soccer as end goal. No High School Soccer allowed, and other serious sport commitments are very unrealistic based on training and travel commitments of most every DA team/club.

    ECNL: NT and High Level D1 Soccer as end goal. Other serious sport committments are very unrealistic based on training and travel commitments of most every ECNL team/club.

    TOP HALF NPL: Mid to low D1, D2, or D3 Soccer as end goal. Will need to work to get in front of targeted college coaches a bit more especially for D1 level, but it can be done. Other serious sports commitments are harder to pull off, but can usually be managed if soccer always comes first, and you have the right coach situation on both ends.

    BOTTOM HALF NPL: Low D1, D2, or D3 Soccer as end goal. As with Top Half NPL, your player will need to work harder to get in front of the targeted college coaches, but it can be done. Other serious sports commitment are a bit easier to participate in, but you still might find heavy resistance from some coaches to allow you to always put another sport first.

    TOP HALF NEP/SOME TOP NSL: Some low D2 and mid to Low D3 soccer as end goal. Top players on these teams can find a home on one of these college rosters if they want one. Much more freedom to participate in other sports at a high level.

    REST OF NEP/NSL: Varsity High School Soccer as end goal.
    Thank you, this was actually very helpful to me. We are one of those families struggling with whether or not our child should move up to NPL from a strong NEP team. The talent and desire is there, but not sure our family can “afford” the cost/travel/commitment increase. It’s time to do our “end goal” assessment with him, and make the decision for next year.

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      #3
      I think many parents are finally starting to go through this process more diligently now that these top leagues have tried to push the envelope even harder in terms of cost and travel. I think you are now seeing a bigger migration of players on top teams back DOWN the pyramid.

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        #4
        Yep agree, too costly with travel expenses and time for many.

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          #5
          Our child is at the top of the pyramid and a 90%+ starter. We're leaving after the end of the season because the money, time and travel no longer make sense no matter what the end goal is.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Our child is at the top of the pyramid and a 90%+ starter. We're leaving after the end of the season because the money, time and travel no longer make sense no matter what the end goal is.
            In the end this is what matters most. Do what fits best for your child and family. Dont' stress out about the level or get caught up in the hype. Things have a way of working themselves out in the end.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Our child is at the top of the pyramid and a 90%+ starter. We're leaving after the end of the season because the money, time and travel no longer make sense no matter what the end goal is.
              Congratulations. You just won the game.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Our child is at the top of the pyramid and a 90%+ starter. We're leaving after the end of the season because the money, time and travel no longer make sense no matter what the end goal is.
                Listen if this were actually completely true (and not the usual troll with an agenda) then you wouldn’t be saying it wasn’t worth it. The pot of gold is actually at the end of the rainbow, you just can’t blow your brains out trying to find it. The fact is if your kid is what you say then you should be managing your club and pushing back. No one says you have to go on every trip. If your kid is that good your club isn’t going to push back all that hard on you. Grow a pair. The actual value is in the training anyways. If that’s too much for your kid then you are nothing but one of those delusional parents who think scholarship money grows on trees and their kids don’t actually have to work for it. Should have stayed with town soccer if you weren’t willing to pay the price. Shame on you.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Listen if this were actually completely true (and not the usual troll with an agenda) then you wouldn’t be saying it wasn’t worth it. The pot of gold is actually at the end of the rainbow, you just can’t blow your brains out trying to find it. The fact is if your kid is what you say then you should be managing your club and pushing back. No one says you have to go on every trip. If your kid is that good your club isn’t going to push back all that hard on you. Grow a pair. The actual value is in the training anyways. If that’s too much for your kid then you are nothing but one of those delusional parents who think scholarship money grows on trees and their kids don’t actually have to work for it. Should have stayed with town soccer if you weren’t willing to pay the price. Shame on you.
                  Not the poster but as the thread OP said often times families do get sucked in at the younger ages, then suddenly realize they're on a treadmill with no stop button (kids and parents). I also think many don't take more than 3 minutes each tryout season to sit down with their kids, talk about the good and bad and what they want to do next year. Sometimes your current home isn't the best home

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                    #10
                    The point that caught my eye was the statement about how good their kid is. If they are all that and a bag of peanuts as they claim then there actually is a pot of gold st the end of the rainbow for them. Thing is if what they’re saying is true they know that pretty early on and would not be second guessing themselves now. The truth probably is that they just realized their kid is one of indistinguishable masses and are doing the typical about face. The about face really isn’t the issue it’s the delusion about what their kid is that is. The clubs feed on these types. The parents lack of objectivity early on is the real learning point.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Listen if this were actually completely true (and not the usual troll with an agenda) then you wouldn’t be saying it wasn’t worth it. The pot of gold is actually at the end of the rainbow, you just can’t blow your brains out trying to find it. The fact is if your kid is what you say then you should be managing your club and pushing back. No one says you have to go on every trip. If your kid is that good your club isn’t going to push back all that hard on you. Grow a pair. The actual value is in the training anyways. If that’s too much for your kid then you are nothing but one of those delusional parents who think scholarship money grows on trees and their kids don’t actually have to work for it. Should have stayed with town soccer if you weren’t willing to pay the price. Shame on you.
                      No troll, just realistic, have a great Mother's Day.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        The point that caught my eye was the statement about how good their kid is. If they are all that and a bag of peanuts as they claim then there actually is a pot of gold st the end of the rainbow for them. Thing is if what they’re saying is true they know that pretty early on and would not be second guessing themselves now. The truth probably is that they just realized their kid is one of indistinguishable masses and are doing the typical about face. The about face really isn’t the issue it’s the delusion about what their kid is that is. The clubs feed on these types. The parents lack of objectivity early on is the real learning point.
                        There is no pot of gold for boys. The same pot awaits for most regardless of league.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          No troll, just realistic, have a great Mother's Day.
                          At what age did that realism take hold. Big big difference between 12-13 and 15-16.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            There is no pot of gold for boys. The same pot awaits for most regardless of league.
                            There never was, never will be. Parents of boys know that from the beginning.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              At what age did that realism take hold. Big big difference between 12-13 and 15-16.
                              The latter.

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