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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    I would guess if you looked at the clubs without their own fields they are the highest paid DOC's.

    It looks like Westside, Eastside, Cascade League.
    Nah, PCU pays the most and has done a good job developing fields for their club (succeeded where Bernie couldn't).

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Nah, PCU pays the most and has done a good job developing fields for their club (succeeded where Bernie couldn't).
      PCU doesn't have their own fields, but works well with Portland Parks and Rec.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Lancaster California

        Lancaster Massachusetts

        Just two cities with the same name in different states, State Association complexes.

        Do some research and you will find out many USYS State Associations supply complexes ranging in size and scope. Hawaii is another. Build your list.

        Where is America sentiment is fully understood and noted, not where in America.
        2 random places doesn’t mean this is prevalent and especially not in high soccer areas.

        I know this is common in Europe, but it is not common here.

        Make your own list.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          2 random places doesn’t mean this is prevalent and especially not in high soccer areas. I know this is common in Europe, but it is not common here.

          Make your own list.
          Not common in the backwaters of Timber/Thorns country Oregon Youth Soccer for sure..

          California Youth Soccer has the most registered players in the US and complex

          Massachusetts offers you a visual of a state complex.
          https://www.mayouthsoccer.org/ A Top 15 state population base in the USA

          Random thoughts seem to be your affliction, not sure you even know how to make a list.

          or maybe you're just high.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Or choose a club that is financially responsible and a real non profit that invests in the community. The only two clubs in the area with complex's they have built are Eastside Timbers/Thorns and Washington Timbers. Hmm I don't think the Portland Timbers or OYSA have anything to do with this. Might want to check out your clubs finances and see where the money is going in your club. What I find most interesting about your post is you are looking for someone else, OYSA to build you a field.
            Einstein, OYSA seves all it members by design, charter and definition. Just on this forum you can see pictures of other USYS state associations who actually construct & build fields for their membership clubs/players. That's what a strong, valued & ethically responsible mission based non profit could do for it's 60K+ members.

            It's interesting that you confuse individual local community benefactors (wa. timbers/ESU) who fund fields for their neighborhood clubs as proof they are a financial responsible club, whilst they are nearly bankrupt today. The Fields were donated you goofball.

            Next.

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              #36
              Isn’t OYSA a vehicle for the Timbers to make profits off youth soccer? I don’t really know just asking. So if the profits do go to a for-profit company you can’t expect facilities to come out of the deal.

              This is America and a profit motive is not a bad thing.

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                #37
                No the Timbers are a vehicle

                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Isn’t OYSA a vehicle for the Timbers to make profits off youth soccer? I don’t really know just asking. So if the profits do go to a for-profit company you can’t expect facilities to come out of the deal.

                This is America and a profit motive is not a bad thing.
                No OYSA isn't a vehicle for the Timbers to make money off youth soccer. OYSA sanctions league and has other youth leagues not associated with the Timbers/Thorns. If the youth clubs in the Portland area, for example, wanted to form a league and have it sanctioned by OYSA they could. However looking at the current make up of the membership in the Portland Timbers / Thorns and overwhelming enrollment of clubs they like what they are freely enrolling in.

                If you want fields build them or put together a group and build them. If you want a different league build it, but don't ask someone else to do it for you. In either case OYSA can be facilitator but not the driving force. In short get involved and make a difference.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Isn’t OYSA a vehicle for the Timbers to make profits off youth soccer? I don’t really know just asking. So if the profits do go to a for-profit company you can’t expect facilities to come out of the deal.

                  This is America and a profit motive is not a bad thing.
                  You contradict yourself, OYSA is a non-profit built to serve it's members.

                  OYSA feeding their membership driven league, cup & rtc/odp revenues to a third party for-profit for what service or exchange of goods? Please explain.

                  This whole setup resembles a street corner market paying protection monies in south Boston to the Winter Hill Gang, this is in fact a very bad thing. .

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    No OYSA isn't a vehicle for the Timbers to make money off youth soccer. OYSA sanctions league and has other youth leagues not associated with the Timbers/Thorns. If the youth clubs in the Portland area, for example, wanted to form a league and have it sanctioned by OYSA they could. However looking at the current make up of the membership in the Portland Timbers / Thorns and overwhelming enrollment of clubs they like what they are freely enrolling in.

                    If you want fields build them or put together a group and build them. If you want a different league build it, but don't ask someone else to do it for you. In either case OYSA can be facilitator but not the driving force. In short get involved and make a difference.
                    Wrong, this is your opinion.

                    Fact is other state associations as well as hundreds of membership based non profit clubs across this nation do serve their members and among other things construct complexes on their own.

                    When you are paying fees to the club & state association for leagues, cards & etc this transaction repeated thousands of times a year by members creates revenues that should be directed to the non profit needs/mission, but instead it's directed to bloated payrolls of little value or oversight.

                    It's hard to make a difference, when the clubs and association don't know the difference of a for profit or a non profit.

                    Count yourself as one of them.

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                      #40
                      Run for a board seat

                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      You contradict yourself, OYSA is a non-profit built to serve it's members.

                      OYSA feeding their membership driven league, cup & rtc/odp revenues to a third party for-profit for what service or exchange of goods? Please explain.

                      This whole setup resembles a street corner market paying protection monies in south Boston to the Winter Hill Gang, this is in fact a very bad thing. .
                      The last letter of OYSA is association. A group of members make up the association driven by an volunteer elected board and several volunteer representatives. This group has chosen to contract with a 3rd party for services, in this case ODP. The Portland Timbers / Thorns offer a league, clubs register for it. Change is relativity easy within this environment if people get involved. Most board members run unopposed, and many positions are not even filled. So sit back and complain about the leadership but don't get involved. By the way the current board president will be setting down after his term maybe you would like to propose a plan. Sit down with club director and run.

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                        #41
                        Agreed

                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Wrong, this is your opinion.

                        Fact is other state associations as well as hundreds of membership based non profit clubs across this nation do serve their members and among other things construct complexes on their own.

                        When you are paying fees to the club & state association for leagues, cards & etc this transaction repeated thousands of times a year by members creates revenues that should be directed to the non profit needs/mission, but instead it's directed to bloated payrolls of little value or oversight.

                        It's hard to make a difference, when the clubs and association don't know the difference of a for profit or a non profit.

                        Count yourself as one of them.
                        Agreed many non profits service their membership differently. All non profits are run by boards. Run and make a difference. Again the president of OYSA is not running after this term. What would your plan be. I personally like what the Timbers/Thorns provide.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Agreed many non profits service their membership differently. All non profits are run by boards. Run and make a difference. Again the president of OYSA is not running after this term. What would your plan be. I personally like what the Timbers/Thorns provide.
                          So you like non-profits paying for trademark branding? Odd personality you have. Enjoy your humor though.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Agreed many non profits service their membership differently. All non profits are run by boards. Run and make a difference. Again the president of OYSA is not running after this term. What would your plan be. I personally like what the Timbers/Thorns provide.
                            It's exactly the same service OYSA provided prior to the Timbers takeover of even less attention, value and quality. You are saying you like what the OYSA provides since the Timbers/Thorns aren't providing anything other than a brand. I get it you like slogans and trademarks, for each their own.

                            MS & EL were OYSA lifers that do the same jobs for OYSA today they have always done when they parked at Western Ave, even if their paystub say peregrine.

                            Timbers/Thorns should be paying the OYSA for sponsorship branding of leagues/cups/odp not getting paid for labeling them and the kicker is they are using de facto oysa staff in this upside arrangement which funnels monies to peregrine.

                            Shell Corp. would be a better league branding fit.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              The last letter of OYSA is association. A group of members make up the association driven by an volunteer elected board and several volunteer representatives. This group has chosen to contract with a 3rd party for services, in this case ODP. The Portland Timbers / Thorns offer a league, clubs register for it. Change is relativity easy within this environment if people get involved. Most board members run unopposed, and many positions are not even filled. So sit back and complain about the leadership but don't get involved. By the way the current board president will be setting down after his term maybe you would like to propose a plan. Sit down with club director and run.
                              You do you contract a third party vendor to do services when the vendor uses the OYSA staff for said services.

                              Highlighting a con isn't complaining, it's called educating or a reveal.

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                                #45
                                What would you like to see

                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                It's exactly the same service OYSA provided prior to the Timbers takeover of even less attention, value and quality. You are saying you like what the OYSA provides since the Timbers/Thorns aren't providing anything other than a brand. I get it you like slogans and trademarks, for each their own.

                                MS & EL were OYSA lifers that do the same jobs for OYSA today they have always done when they parked at Western Ave, even if their paystub say peregrine.

                                Timbers/Thorns should be paying the OYSA for sponsorship branding of leagues/cups/odp not getting paid for labeling them and the kicker is they are using de facto oysa staff in this upside arrangement which funnels monies to peregrine.

                                Shell Corp. would be a better league branding fit.
                                How do you think the organization should be ran. Please share

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