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    #16
    If USSF’s goal is to make soccer “the preeminent sport in America” as one of the reviewers wrote, then you can see a problem right there. Find a more realistic, relevant goal and maybe you can get everyone on the same page.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Great gity so I'll dispute that point, but all the rest is in target. Unfortunately if the women win, which is likely, there will be little incentive to reform. I also think you need someone in charge who knows the game yet still is a leader and can run an organization. Not an easy job to fill
      it may be a great city, but there is no reason to make that a main criteria for employment with the USSF.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        it may be a great city, but there is no reason to make that a main criteria for employment with the USSF.
        What, that the person is local? Of course not. It should be a national search. I was just pointing out that it is a great city and should be attractive to applicants, not a deterrent. What matters most is leadership, something it is clearly lacking right now.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          If USSF’s goal is to make soccer “the preeminent sport in America” as one of the reviewers wrote, then you can see a problem right there. Find a more realistic, relevant goal and maybe you can get everyone on the same page.
          Excellent point. Build it over time. Look at the GDA rollout. Had they started either regionally, or with fewer clubs or just the younger ages (no HS issues) they could have proven its worth and built demand off that success. Instead they went whole hog all at once and it's been a mess. Thinking you will surpass football, basketball and baseball any time soon is a pipe dream. One step at a time baby. it can be done with a a strong leader with a vision that will work for the US and the realities of the US sports environment.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            What, that the person is local? Of course not. It should be a national search. I was just pointing out that it is a great city and should be attractive to applicants, not a deterrent. What matters most is leadership, something it is clearly lacking right now.
            the " you must move to Chicago" has cost them some good people already. Soccer people. for a desk jockey, its no deterrent i guess. the point im making is its not ONE search. they have almost no youth coaches now. Why ?

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              the " you must move to Chicago" has cost them some good people already. Soccer people. for a desk jockey, its no deterrent i guess. the point im making is its not ONE search. they have almost no youth coaches now. Why ?
              Sorry no. You don't relocate an entire operation to hire a new leader. Corporations don't do that and neither do non profits. Then what do you do for the next leadership hire - move again? Chicago is hardly Topeka Kansas. As for staff, there's far more to it than just the location. Clearly it's a terrible place to work and probably doesn't pay that well (vs the head who gets paid very, very well, too well). There are plenty of qualified people who would be willing to move for a good job. People do it all the time, but it has to be the right job.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Sorry no. You don't relocate an entire operation to hire a new leader. Corporations don't do that and neither do non profits. Then what do you do for the next leadership hire - move again? Chicago is hardly Topeka Kansas. As for staff, there's far more to it than just the location. Clearly it's a terrible place to work and probably doesn't pay that well (vs the head who gets paid very, very well, too well). There are plenty of qualified people who would be willing to move for a good job. People do it all the time, but it has to be the right job.
                except the people im referring to already worked for them. the move to chicago was a deal breaker. they left. many good people.

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                  #23
                  All is not well a US Soccer

                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  except the people im referring to already worked for them. the move to chicago was a deal breaker. they left. many good people.
                  Good.... the entire staff and all leadership should be fired anyway!!!!! Until we can get a MNT into the semi finals of the world cup (at least)....lets find the right staff and leadership until we do. breakdown and start US soccer from the ground up every 4 years until we get this right.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    except the people im referring to already worked for them. the move to chicago was a deal breaker. they left. many good people.
                    Ok. Now it's done and hire accordingly. Don't keep moving around.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      the " you must move to Chicago" has cost them some good people already. Soccer people. for a desk jockey, its no deterrent i guess. the point im making is its not ONE search. they have almost no youth coaches now. Why ?
                      When it comes to the YNT coaches, it’s not too hard to guess why these jobs are hard to fill. Let’s run through the requirements (or at least what they should be):

                      1) must have a record of success in international competition (not your best buddy, the assistant college coach)

                      2) must be willing to put your successful career on hold to make a 2-3 year commitment to develop and lead the team thru an entire cycle to the relevant youth World Cup (not the 1-2 years that most do now)

                      3) must develop the team so that the same successful players move through system from one U level to the next (note: not done now where 90% of the team either fails to make it through the cycle, let alone to the next U level)

                      If these 3 things were required, then maybe a serious contender would take the job and not the hacks we’ve had rotating through the job coaching a revolving door of girls who treat national duty like summer camp.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        When it comes to the YNT coaches, it’s not too hard to guess why these jobs are hard to fill. Let’s run through the requirements (or at least what they should be):

                        1) must have a record of success in international competition (not your best buddy, the assistant college coach)

                        2) must be willing to put your successful career on hold to make a 2-3 year commitment to develop and lead the team thru an entire cycle to the relevant youth World Cup (not the 1-2 years that most do now)

                        3) must develop the team so that the same successful players move through system from one U level to the next (note: not done now where 90% of the team either fails to make it through the cycle, let alone to the next U level)

                        If these 3 things were required, then maybe a serious contender would take the job and not the hacks we’ve had rotating through the job coaching a revolving door of girls who treat national duty like summer camp.
                        Yeah good luck with that. As much as ECNL has flaws, so does the entire youth nt system. GDA isn't going to fix that problem but the hire ups think it's a cure all.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Good.... the entire staff and all leadership should be fired anyway!!!!! Until we can get a MNT into the semi finals of the world cup (at least)....lets find the right staff and leadership until we do. breakdown and start US soccer from the ground up every 4 years until we get this right.
                          This is such an ignorant post.

                          You don't even know who the YNT coaches that decided to leave were, what their history of success was, what their overall player developmental success was, whether or not they had ANY relevance to the failure of the men's full team, or even if they were on the men's or women's side...

                          You my friend are an uniformed, ignorant, speak before you think, jacka55.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            except the people im referring to already worked for them. the move to chicago was a deal breaker. they left. many good people.
                            yep.

                            the people that left cause they didn't want to relocate to Chicago were coaches that part of the solution, not the problem.

                            and in their place USSF was able to hire who to replace them?

                            literally no one.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              yep.

                              the people that left cause they didn't want to relocate to Chicago were coaches that part of the solution, not the problem.

                              and in their place USSF was able to hire who to replace them?

                              literally no one.
                              Do you REALLY think a move that happened over ten years ago is why the organization is failing today? BTW part of the move happened in 1991. Location blame is a a sorry excuse. Some people will always have personal reasons why they can't move. If it's a good job and organization, obstacles can be overcome. Bad job/bad organization then location becomes an easy out.

                              Click on the link and see how they drone on about the mansion. They seem to care far more about it's rich history and location than they do about running a quality organization.

                              " In the tradition of many world soccer federations and the FIFA House in Zurich, the U.S. Soccer Federation took up residence in two refurbished mansions in Chicago’s Prairie Avenue Historical District more than 11 years ago. Since dubbed the U.S. Soccer House, the corner of 18th Street and Prairie Avenue now serves as the American home of the world’s most popular sport Formerly located in Colorado Springs, Colo., U.S. Soccer moved their operational base into the Kimball house at 1801 South Prairie Avenue and the Coleman-Ames house at 1811 South Prairie Avenue in December of 1991..." https://www.ussoccer.com/history/us-soccer-house

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                                #30
                                If the WNT loses today look for rats to flee the sinking ship in Chicago.

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