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    Olympic Soccer Men's USA

    Missed Olympics again! It goes to show that all these MLS academy youth programs and these affiliated clubs are not producing good quality young players.

    #2
    We don’t produce, we ruin these kids in the US. The system simply does not work in comparison to the European models.

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      #3
      It’s an embarrassment. A country of this size with as much athletic talent as we have. The results of a pay to play system.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Missed Olympics again! It goes to show that all these MLS academy youth programs and these affiliated clubs are not producing good quality young players.
        Disagree, we have more quality now then ever before!

        And, the implementation of Klinsmann’s smaller sided games, and field proportions for younger players, hasn’t taken hold. The 2007 birth year is the first age group fully impacted by the changes.

        We need refs to be more educated. I saw that we foul far more than ROW.

        You do that when you’re less technical or thinking slower.

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          #5
          The only way the MLS is going to last is if USA starts winning these global contests like the Olympics or World Cup. Then more people will get interested in soccer here. Otherwise, I say in 10-15 years, MLS will shut down.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            The only way the MLS is going to last is if USA starts winning these global contests like the Olympics or World Cup. Then more people will get interested in soccer here. Otherwise, I say in 10-15 years, MLS will shut down.
            Need to bring in a North Korean coach and make the players play like their lives are on the line.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Need to bring in a North Korean coach and make the players play like their lives are on the line.
              Sorry. I’ve just been informed that making reference to North Korea in that manner is problematic. Please change to:

              Need to bring in Colombian drug cartel coach and make the players play like their lives depend on it.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Sorry. I’ve just been informed that making reference to North Korea in that manner is problematic. Please change to:

                Need to bring in Colombian drug cartel coach and make the players play like their lives depend on it.
                Me again. Apologies but I’ve been told I can’t refer to Colombia in that way. Please revise to:

                Need to bring in former East German coach, juice the players up with steroids, and make them play like their lives depend on it.

                Any East German apologists in the audience, keep it to yourself. No one cares.

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                  #9
                  US Soccer is a very poorly run organization. Unfortunately most of our top players 23 and under are in Europe and could not participate. It is still a big problem that we could not find a way to beat Honduras. We needed the Olympics for development purposes. Even the piss poor run US Soccer will not be able to stop the progress and the men's team, which will be fun to watch over the coming years and especially in 2026. Pool just seems to grow every day with the emergence of kids like Dike, Hoppe, and Aaronssen.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    The only way the MLS is going to last is if USA starts winning these global contests like the Olympics or World Cup. Then more people will get interested in soccer here. Otherwise, I say in 10-15 years, MLS will shut down.
                    http://www.iweblists.com/sports/olym...ensSoccer.html

                    This is the easiest of the two, and not an easy task by any means.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      US Soccer is a very poorly run organization. Unfortunately most of our top players 23 and under are in Europe and could not participate. It is still a big problem that we could not find a way to beat Honduras. We needed the Olympics for development purposes. Even the piss poor run US Soccer will not be able to stop the progress and the men's team, which will be fun to watch over the coming years and especially in 2026. Pool just seems to grow every day with the emergence of kids like Dike, Hoppe, and Aaronssen.
                      I agree that the quality of players has grown and the proof as you mentioned some of the players with many more playing throughout Europe. The problem is US Soccer who could not get their act together with circumstances with players availability beyond their control. But, it begins with a proper coach and they had the wrong guy in charge. The players chosen just seemed so raw with little experience and it showed vs. Honduras. They were coached poorly and they played poorly. No excuses.

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                        #12
                        Olympics men's soccer is U23. Clubs are not forced by FIFA to release their players for the U23 national team games (no matter how important). They are however obligated by FIFA rules to release their players for full national team events (no matter how insignificant). Therefore for the Olympic qualifiers (a U23 match) all European clubs and a few MLS clubs did not allow their U23 players who were called up to attend those games (so, no Pulisic, MacKennie, Dest, etc). This meant the US had to field a third-tier team of U23 players for these qualifiers (ironically on the same weekend that the full national team, with all the young star players, played a couple of friendlies).

                        Two problems:
                        1. FIFA is corrupt
                        2. Not enough depth in US soccer (yet)

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Olympics men's soccer is U23. Clubs are not forced by FIFA to release their players for the U23 national team games (no matter how important). They are however obligated by FIFA rules to release their players for full national team events (no matter how insignificant). Therefore for the Olympic qualifiers (a U23 match) all European clubs and a few MLS clubs did not allow their U23 players who were called up to attend those games (so, no Pulisic, MacKennie, Dest, etc). This meant the US had to field a third-tier team of U23 players for these qualifiers (ironically on the same weekend that the full national team, with all the young star players, played a couple of friendlies).

                          Two problems:
                          1. FIFA is corrupt
                          2. Not enough depth in US soccer (yet)

                          The same rules apply for every country. Nothing to do with corruption in this case.

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                            #14
                            Guys we can complain all day about this. This is the truth. The Usa is behind because of the lifestyle here. The rest of the world lives and breathes the sport. Its their only ticket out. Here we live for perception, showing off jobs and cars. Mommy and daddy fight our battles. We are pressured to go to college when in reality college is a scam. The school and degree doesn't matter anymore. Most kids can't find decent jobs coming out or don't even apply their degree and go in another direction.

                            Soccer aside, if we want to get back to being the best we need to leave the ego at the door and live better. Treat each other better and spread love. Less ignorance and more street smart education.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              The same rules apply for every country. Nothing to do with corruption in this case.
                              Other countries have far greater depth, we've got none. Plus the US has piss poor talent identification and development (many of those international players developed outside "the system"). Top it off with poor coaching.

                              Whatever the reasons, unfortunately it doesn't help the image of men's soccer in the US. US sports fans love winners, can't be bothered with losers, especially for the big international events.

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