Another top club leaving the DA to be all in ECNL

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How many league games IN ANY FEMALE LEAGUE are all fast paced and competitive? you keep drafting a nirvana that does not exist, especially for the very best players. How are they challenged in games?

If you are going to sit around waiting for the challenge in games you will be waiting a long long time if you are a top player.

You have to find your competition 4x per week in training. Now the ECNL has some clubs with 2 teams in the same age, how is that going to be more competitive?

Ill wait....

Obviously ignorant so you can’t be helped. ECNL games are fast paced and competitive. The league makes a point to match up the best teams at showcases as well. It is a far better league in terms of organization and competition. But keep waiting. Lol

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How many league games IN ANY FEMALE LEAGUE are all fast paced and competitive? you keep drafting a nirvana that does not exist, especially for the very best players. How are they challenged in games?

If you are going to sit around waiting for the challenge in games you will be waiting a long long time if you are a top player.

You have to find your competition 4x per week in training. Now the ECNL has some clubs with 2 teams in the same age, how is that going to be more competitive?

Ill wait....

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- So because the women's game is slower they shouldn't play as many games? The game is what it is for women. Can't do much to change that. Within and league and certainly in GDA, some games are a waste of time. Adding more poor teams won't help that. Now the top clubs and players get even less of a challenge. The option to play non DA teams is only for boys - GDA teams should be allowed to scrimmage ECNL teams.

- Most players in the US aren't "top players" which is why DA is ill suited for the top players - they won't get challenged in the same was vs when NT teams practice together. On any given DA team there are very few top players that can challenge each other.

I'm not a fan of the 2 ECNL team thing but that's on a pretty limited scale. The one bonus is having two similarly matched teams that can scrimmage together frequently.

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Obviously ignorant so you can’t be helped. ECNL games are fast paced and competitive. The league makes a point to match up the best teams at showcases as well. It is a far better league in terms of organization and competition. But keep waiting. Lol

ECNL games are fast paced and competitive. LOL. you do realize that matching up two 5th paced teams does not make the soccer good right? Even if its competitive. You are endorsing showcases ffs. Whose the idiot? Games designed to let everyone play and you are endorsing them as an example of the league? Jeez.

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Not the OP:

- So because the women's game is slower they shouldn't play as many games? The game is what it is for women. Can't do much to change that. Within and league and certainly in GDA, some games are a waste of time. Adding more poor teams won't help that. Now the top clubs and players get even less of a challenge. The option to play non DA teams is only for boys - GDA teams should be allowed to scrimmage ECNL teams.

- Most players in the US aren't "top players" which is why DA is ill suited for the top players - they won't get challenged in the same was vs when NT teams practice together. On any given DA team there are very few top players that can challenge each other.

I'm not a fan of the 2 ECNL team thing but that's on a pretty limited scale. The one bonus is having two similarly matched teams that can scrimmage together frequently.

Are you paying attention? Who said they should not play as many games? The GDA seson is longer and no HS. You have more Club practices.

Within the ECNL some games are a waste of time as well. Whats your point? At our club they dont. they play and practice with better players all the time - men, boys and older girls. pros and top amateurs.

you last poing is plain stupid. there are 4 GDA teams. Common practice can create even scrimmages every day of they choose.

You and most of the posters here are stuck in some pretty boring thinking. A good club can mix it up and create far more competition than any league can. All the leagues do is add refs, fancy uniforms, travel and bells and whistles .

That makes people like you think its better. thats why they have so many parents paying thru the nose to be " legitimate" Meanwhile your kids are no better.

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Obviously ignorant so you can’t be helped. ECNL games are fast paced and competitive. The league makes a point to match up the best teams at showcases as well. It is a far better league in terms of organization and competition. But keep waiting. Lol

A far better league in terms of organization? How exactly?

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A far better league in terms of organization? How exactly?

US Soccer is a disaster. Their website, league schedule and showcase events are poorly run. As a college coach, you can’t even compare the two leagues. The competition is more consistently better in the ECNL and the event itself much better as well. The difference is the ECNL has been around longer and has learned from early mistakes while the GDA is making them now. The problem is that when the ECNL was making mistakes, there wasn’t any competition to worry about. The GDA stepped into a loaded mine field and doesn’t have the luxury of making mistakes as evidenced by the flood of players and clubs leaving.

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ECNL games are fast paced and competitive. LOL. you do realize that matching up two 5th paced teams does not make the soccer good right? Even if its competitive. You are endorsing showcases ffs. Whose the idiot? Games designed to let everyone play and you are endorsing them as an example of the league? Jeez.

You need to decide what you are about. Helping the best players reach the NT? Or providing a platform for kids to play in college? If it’s the first, you need better and more consistent competition. If it’s the latter, you need to run events that showcase kids at a variety of levels. D1. D2. And D3. In both situations, the ECNL is the better platform. It can’t even be argued. I thought maybe the GDA would be successful at first, but the pull of HS is strong and the kids that know they aren’t NT material, won’t want to give it up. Without those kids, the level drops dramatically in the GDA. You have NT level kids playing with below average JV players who wouldn’t make their varsity team. You can train as often as you like, but with that level of player, it won’t make a difference. I’m sorry but US Soccer is run by a bunch of failed former college coaches. They ran ODP into the ground. They ran the regional and national leagues into the ground. And they are in the process of failing with the GDA. Their arrogance is what has done them in in nearly every instance. They don’t listen to the people on the ground and continue to try and force feed their manure to a public that is on to it. The only people staying in the GDA are the ones that can’t make an ECNL team and that’s embarrassing.

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You need to decide what you are about. Helping the best players reach the NT? Or providing a platform for kids to play in college? If it’s the first, you need better and more consistent competition. If it’s the latter, you need to run events that showcase kids at a variety of levels. D1. D2. And D3. In both situations, the ECNL is the better platform. It can’t even be argued. I thought maybe the GDA would be successful at first, but the pull of HS is strong and the kids that know they aren’t NT material, won’t want to give it up. Without those kids, the level drops dramatically in the GDA. You have NT level kids playing with below average JV players who wouldn’t make their varsity team. You can train as often as you like, but with that level of player, it won’t make a difference. I’m sorry but US Soccer is run by a bunch of failed former college coaches. They ran ODP into the ground. They ran the regional and national leagues into the ground. And they are in the process of failing with the GDA. Their arrogance is what has done them in in nearly every instance. They don’t listen to the people on the ground and continue to try and force feed their manure to a public that is on to it. The only people staying in the GDA are the ones that can’t make an ECNL team and that’s embarrassing.

What is happening at NYCFC GDA? Are players going back to World Class ECNL team? Seems players have a clear choice there - one or the other. Which will prevail?

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You need to decide what you are about. Helping the best players reach the NT? Or providing a platform for kids to play in college? If it’s the first, you need better and more consistent competition. If it’s the latter, you need to run events that showcase kids at a variety of levels. D1. D2. And D3. In both situations, the ECNL is the better platform. It can’t even be argued. I thought maybe the GDA would be successful at first, but the pull of HS is strong and the kids that know they aren’t NT material, won’t want to give it up. Without those kids, the level drops dramatically in the GDA. You have NT level kids playing with below average JV players who wouldn’t make their varsity team. You can train as often as you like, but with that level of player, it won’t make a difference. I’m sorry but US Soccer is run by a bunch of failed former college coaches. They ran ODP into the ground. They ran the regional and national leagues into the ground. And they are in the process of failing with the GDA. Their arrogance is what has done them in in nearly every instance. They don’t listen to the people on the ground and continue to try and force feed their manure to a public that is on to it. The only people staying in the GDA are the ones that can’t make an ECNL team and that’s embarrassing.

^^^ this. It will only get worse (no one in their right mind can believe adding Albertson or Seacoast is good for the region other than convenience) and now USSF is run by a former investment banker who knows nothing about soccer

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You need to decide what you are about. Helping the best players reach the NT? Or providing a platform for kids to play in college? If it’s the first, you need better and more consistent competition. If it’s the latter, you need to run events that showcase kids at a variety of levels. D1. D2. And D3. In both situations, the ECNL is the better platform. It can’t even be argued. I thought maybe the GDA would be successful at first, but the pull of HS is strong and the kids that know they aren’t NT material, won’t want to give it up. Without those kids, the level drops dramatically in the GDA. You have NT level kids playing with below average JV players who wouldn’t make their varsity team. You can train as often as you like, but with that level of player, it won’t make a difference. I’m sorry but US Soccer is run by a bunch of failed former college coaches. They ran ODP into the ground. They ran the regional and national leagues into the ground. And they are in the process of failing with the GDA. Their arrogance is what has done them in in nearly every instance. They don’t listen to the people on the ground and continue to try and force feed their manure to a public that is on to it. The only people staying in the GDA are the ones that can’t make an ECNL team and that’s embarrassing.

Your take is exactly what keeps all these Clubs in business and ruins the game here. There is ONLY one true pursuit. enjoying the game and getting better. all the other nonsense you mention is a byproduct of that. In the USA, the game has been segmented and marketed in such a way to promote multiple paths that purely exist to make money.

Neither ECNL nor GDA is not a better platform . They are just more expensive. Its become self fulfilling based on critical mass.

To generalize at league level the way you do in your post is idiotic. its a Club by club question and even more importantly its a LOCAL question for parents unless they plan on increasing costs exponentially by travelling large distances to practices.

You, like many others, are equating the economic bread and butter of a league with talent. Yes, the mass profitability of any league relies on the mid level payer being happy because there are very few eleite players. but that does not mean that the mid level player IS talented. it does nto mean that becasue a league has Elite in its name, the players are.

the USA is the only soccer play country that charges average players huge amounts to play and its that parental ego that allows it to continue. People say thing like the leagues should be smaller and regional. They would be if parents were remotely realistic and there was not this artificial demand created by Title 9.

You have many womens college soccer programs that get less than 100 people at a game. dont get me wrong, its great that our girls get to continue to play, but its also a shade misleading.

As far as your player development formula, you are not correct. the biggest obstruction to player development is the player themselves. there is so much a player can do irrespective of the players around them. the sheer volume of PAYERS means there are players of all abilities even in the so called top levels. that is true at EVERY CLUB in the ECNL or GDA. if you want to say that in your area, its less of an issue in the ECNL, ok, but dont generalize for everyone else.

GDA has been far better for us than the ECNL was. Better practices, fewer high stress games and no HS. Thats exactly what my daughter needed to prepare for College soccer.

My opinion is purely personal and if ECNL is better for another family, great !! I dont get teh parental need to "win" beyond their own child.

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^^^ this. It will only get worse (no one in their right mind can believe adding Albertson or Seacoast is good for the region other than convenience) and now USSF is run by a former investment banker who knows nothing about soccer

What does "good for the region" even mean ? How is it relevant to you and your child?

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What does "good for the region" even mean ? How is it relevant to you and your child?

It means the NE region was already weak and it just got a lot weaker.

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Your take is exactly what keeps all these Clubs in business and ruins the game here. There is ONLY one true pursuit. enjoying the game and getting better. all the other nonsense you mention is a byproduct of that. In the USA, the game has been segmented and marketed in such a way to promote multiple paths that purely exist to make money.

Neither ECNL nor GDA is not a better platform . They are just more expensive. Its become self fulfilling based on critical mass.

To generalize at league level the way you do in your post is idiotic. its a Club by club question and even more importantly its a LOCAL question for parents unless they plan on increasing costs exponentially by travelling large distances to practices.

You, like many others, are equating the economic bread and butter of a league with talent. Yes, the mass profitability of any league relies on the mid level payer being happy because there are very few eleite players. but that does not mean that the mid level player IS talented. it does nto mean that becasue a league has Elite in its name, the players are.

the USA is the only soccer play country that charges average players huge amounts to play and its that parental ego that allows it to continue. People say thing like the leagues should be smaller and regional. They would be if parents were remotely realistic and there was not this artificial demand created by Title 9.

You have many womens college soccer programs that get less than 100 people at a game. dont get me wrong, its great that our girls get to continue to play, but its also a shade misleading.

As far as your player development formula, you are not correct. the biggest obstruction to player development is the player themselves. there is so much a player can do irrespective of the players around them. the sheer volume of PAYERS means there are players of all abilities even in the so called top levels. that is true at EVERY CLUB in the ECNL or GDA. if you want to say that in your area, its less of an issue in the ECNL, ok, but dont generalize for everyone else.

GDA has been far better for us than the ECNL was. Better practices, fewer high stress games and no HS. Thats exactly what my daughter needed to prepare for College soccer.

My opinion is purely personal and if ECNL is better for another family, great !! I dont get teh parental need to "win" beyond their own child.

This is spot on.

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It means the NE region was already weak and it just got a lot weaker.

OK, but how does it impact your child unless those Clubs represent her best playing option?

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Your take is exactly what keeps all these Clubs in business and ruins the game here. There is ONLY one true pursuit. enjoying the game and getting better. all the other nonsense you mention is a byproduct of that. In the USA, the game has been segmented and marketed in such a way to promote multiple paths that purely exist to make money.

Neither ECNL nor GDA is not a better platform . They are just more expensive. Its become self fulfilling based on critical mass.

To generalize at league level the way you do in your post is idiotic. its a Club by club question and even more importantly its a LOCAL question for parents unless they plan on increasing costs exponentially by travelling large distances to practices.

You, like many others, are equating the economic bread and butter of a league with talent. Yes, the mass profitability of any league relies on the mid level payer being happy because there are very few eleite players. but that does not mean that the mid level player IS talented. it does nto mean that becasue a league has Elite in its name, the players are.

the USA is the only soccer play country that charges average players huge amounts to play and its that parental ego that allows it to continue. People say thing like the leagues should be smaller and regional. They would be if parents were remotely realistic and there was not this artificial demand created by Title 9.

You have many womens college soccer programs that get less than 100 people at a game. dont get me wrong, its great that our girls get to continue to play, but its also a shade misleading.

As far as your player development formula, you are not correct. the biggest obstruction to player development is the player themselves. there is so much a player can do irrespective of the players around them. the sheer volume of PAYERS means there are players of all abilities even in the so called top levels. that is true at EVERY CLUB in the ECNL or GDA. if you want to say that in your area, its less of an issue in the ECNL, ok, but dont generalize for everyone else.

GDA has been far better for us than the ECNL was. Better practices, fewer high stress games and no HS. Thats exactly what my daughter needed to prepare for College soccer.

My opinion is purely personal and if ECNL is better for another family, great !! I dont get teh parental need to "win" beyond their own child.

“GDA has been far better for us than the ECNL was. Better practices, fewer high stress games and no HS. Thats exactly what my daughter needed to prepare for College soccer.”

Fewer high stress games? Could you clarify this, you lost me here. What do you mean by fewer high stress games? How does this prepare your kid better for college play exactly?

Also, how exactly are practices better? I’m not disputing your claim, because I don’t have experience observing training from both leagues, just wondering what makes the GDA practices “better”.