Soccer phase 3 take 2

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You can reach out to Governor Baker today asking for soccer to be reclassified to "moderate" risk. Go to https://www.mass.gov/forms/email-the-governors-office. On the form just choose "phase reopening" and specify "risk reclassification" as the subject. If you want more info, look at the 7/6 guidance that came out for the Governor's office regarding sports risk classifications.

Or sign the petition going around to add some clout
https://www.change.org/AskGovBakerto...nMassachusetts

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Can we please avoid the politics. MA is the only state in the country that I can find that classified soccer as a high risk sport. It makes no sense. Ny NJ CT ri Oregon all classify as medium risk. And the national guidelines say the same thing. Was this a drafting error?

Can we unite as a community and try and get this changed?

It makes zero sense. It's the only sport in the world that has actually restarted. There is no sustained face to face proximity in soccer that lasts more than a few seconds. Write / call your state rep and bakers office. One of these people in charge must have a kid that plays soccer...

Do we know how long each of these steps last? Are there any indicators attached to each step that we can compare to so we know that the state is moving to the next step or is this completely arbitrary?

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Everything is completely arbitrary.

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Do we know how long each of these steps last? Are there any indicators attached to each step that we can compare to so we know that the state is moving to the next step or is this completely arbitrary?

That’s one of the main problems..no time line given, nor parameters set for determining a timeline.

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That’s one of the main problems..no time line given, nor parameters set for determining a timeline.

I just don't understand how every Northeast state is moving forward with fall sports, specifically soccer yet in Massachusetts we are not. Can someone please explain this to me. Is Massachusetts that progressive? Do we really have better scientists than any other state in the country? Please explain the rational behind this because people are really starting to get angry. Goal posts are moved on a whim without scientific backing and we want answers now.

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Do we know how long each of these steps last? Are there any indicators attached to each step that we can compare to so we know that the state is moving to the next step or is this completely arbitrary?

It is insane the MA is dragging their feet on sports. RI is up and playing and most are saying RI will even have high school sports with a few safety regs to be put in place. But MA WTH?
Soccer is a moderate risk sport everywhere but in MA? Why?

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It is insane the MA is dragging their feet on sports. RI is up and playing and most are saying RI will even have high school sports with a few safety regs to be put in place. But MA WTH?
Soccer is a moderate risk sport everywhere but in MA? Why?

The expectation I've heard is that Phase 3 Step 1 will last the rest of July. But of course that can be changed either direction if deeded necessary.

And I keep seeing people say that "States X, Y and Z are open for everything!" ... but that's simply not true.

New Hampshire (naturally) is the only state allowing inter-team games (and tournaments!), although with the caveat that ALL players must be NH residents.

CT, ME and VT allow intra-team scrimmages (with some restrictions on size and call for limited contact), but no games between teams.

RI and MA are the most restrictive preventing all scrimmaging in practices.

Here are my sources. Happy to see replies with better ones

Vermont- https://usys-assets.ae-admin.com/ass...y%20June15.pdf
Maine - http://www.soccermaine.com/assets/10...ayphaseiii.pdf
NH - https://www.covidguidance.nh.gov/sit...uth-sports.pdf
CT - http://www.cjsa.org/doclib/CJSA%20Cl...0Phase%202.pdf
RI - http://lysa.gotsport.com/clubsite/?p=984

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The expectation I've heard is that Phase 3 Step 1 will last the rest of July. But of course that can be changed either direction if deeded necessary.

And I keep seeing people say that "States X, Y and Z are open for everything!" ... but that's simply not true.

New Hampshire (naturally) is the only state allowing inter-team games (and tournaments!), although with the caveat that ALL players must be NH residents.

CT, ME and VT allow intra-team scrimmages (with some restrictions on size and call for limited contact), but no games between teams.

RI and MA are the most restrictive preventing all scrimmaging in practices.

Here are my sources. Happy to see replies with better ones

Vermont- https://usys-assets.ae-admin.com/ass...y%20June15.pdf
Maine - http://www.soccermaine.com/assets/10...ayphaseiii.pdf
NH - https://www.covidguidance.nh.gov/sit...uth-sports.pdf
CT - http://www.cjsa.org/doclib/CJSA%20Cl...0Phase%202.pdf
RI - http://lysa.gotsport.com/clubsite/?p=984

Thank you for that update, no sarcasm. Your source on Rhode Island is outdated and defines play in Phase II. Rhode Island has now entered phase III where game play is allowed. Ill fact check your other state sources in a bit.

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Thank you for that update, no sarcasm. Your source on Rhode Island is outdated and defines play in Phase II. Rhode Island has now entered phase III where game play is allowed. Ill fact check your other state sources in a bit.

Noted. I had such trouble finding RI guidance. Would love if someone could find a good source.

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The expectation I've heard is that Phase 3 Step 1 will last the rest of July. But of course that can be changed either direction if deeded necessary.

And I keep seeing people say that "States X, Y and Z are open for everything!" ... but that's simply not true.

New Hampshire (naturally) is the only state allowing inter-team games (and tournaments!), although with the caveat that ALL players must be NH residents.

CT, ME and VT allow intra-team scrimmages (with some restrictions on size and call for limited contact), but no games between teams.

RI and MA are the most restrictive preventing all scrimmaging in practices.

Here are my sources. Happy to see replies with better ones

Vermont- https://usys-assets.ae-admin.com/ass...y%20June15.pdf
Maine - http://www.soccermaine.com/assets/10...ayphaseiii.pdf
NH - https://www.covidguidance.nh.gov/sit...uth-sports.pdf
CT - http://www.cjsa.org/doclib/CJSA%20Cl...0Phase%202.pdf
RI - http://lysa.gotsport.com/clubsite/?p=984

Your NH link is good, but your statement about only NH residents is incorrect. Here is what it states:

No teams/groups/athletes other than from New England are allowed at competitive
sporting events, training sessions, or practices in New Hampshire.

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The expectation I've heard is that Phase 3 Step 1 will last the rest of July. But of course that can be changed either direction if deeded necessary.

And I keep seeing people say that "States X, Y and Z are open for everything!" ... but that's simply not true.

New Hampshire (naturally) is the only state allowing inter-team games (and tournaments!), although with the caveat that ALL players must be NH residents.

CT, ME and VT allow intra-team scrimmages (with some restrictions on size and call for limited contact), but no games between teams.

RI and MA are the most restrictive preventing all scrimmaging in practices.

Here are my sources. Happy to see replies with better ones

Vermont- https://usys-assets.ae-admin.com/ass...y%20June15.pdf
Maine - http://www.soccermaine.com/assets/10...ayphaseiii.pdf
NH - https://www.covidguidance.nh.gov/sit...uth-sports.pdf
CT - http://www.cjsa.org/doclib/CJSA%20Cl...0Phase%202.pdf
RI - http://lysa.gotsport.com/clubsite/?p=984

CT is correct, to a degree. CT has paused their Phase III opening plans but "some" game play is allowed. Its dependent on the number of players on the field thus making me assume 11v11 is not happening and I would have a hard time thinking a 9v9 would be either. This is probably more inter squad scrimmages and small sided games.

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RI guidance is so frustrating to find...

https://reopeningri.com/wp-content/u...?189db0&189db0

Says "Games for no-contact and low-contact sports" but doesn't define what the sports are.

https://www.ricentral.com/news/raimo...188e384a8.html

Says of Phase III, "Close contact sports such as basketball, football and soccer, are being discouraged, and teams are being asked to keep practices to drills."

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CT is correct, to a degree. CT has paused their Phase III opening plans but "some" game play is allowed. Its dependent on the number of players on the field thus making me assume 11v11 is not happening and I would have a hard time thinking a 9v9 would be either. This is probably more inter squad scrimmages and small sided games.

Are you sure it is not happening in CT???
https://farmington-arena.ezleagues.e...m/leagues.aspx

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here's the real CT link-

https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/DECD/C...ters-_Jul2.pdf

Has soccer in "Moderate Risk" which does indeed put them in the open for play category.

Lucky them

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Can we please avoid the politics. MA is the only state in the country that I can find that classified soccer as a high risk sport. It makes no sense. Ny NJ CT ri Oregon all classify as medium risk. And the national guidelines say the same thing. Was this a drafting error?

Can we unite as a community and try and get this changed?

It makes zero sense. It's the only sport in the world that has actually restarted. There is no sustained face to face proximity in soccer that lasts more than a few seconds. Write / call your state rep and bakers office. One of these people in charge must have a kid that plays soccer...

So seems like each sport and their designation will be re-evaluated after two weeks. Although the link to the article provided does not discuss soccer it does discuss youth sports in general. Maybe with the fact that all surrounding states listing soccer as a "moderate risk" this can change by the end of this month. Stay tuned.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/07...-restrictions/