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    #16
    What league really Depends on team,age bracket and skill level of individual .

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      League doesn’t matter. The amount of talent your kid has matters. If they are good, they will be noticed.
      Moron!

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        #18
        League matters and here is why. You child will not develop by constantly playing mediocre talent. Practice and games need to be at the highest level, games need to be played against top talent. it is very hard for players to break in to the top DI schools without this challenge.

        You will find exceptions to this, but playing at a Providence, BC, Dartmouth, UNH, UVM, etc. is very hard for non-DAP or ECNL level players. Some NPL players are able to play U23's to speed up their game play, but let's face it, the speed of play in NPL or NEP is not very good.

        Coaches are looking for talent that can play at college speed, not someone who is great at dribbling around cones.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          League matters and here is why. You child will not develop by constantly playing mediocre talent. Practice and games need to be at the highest level, games need to be played against top talent. it is very hard for players to break in to the top DI schools without this challenge.

          You will find exceptions to this, but playing at a Providence, BC, Dartmouth, UNH, UVM, etc. is very hard for non-DAP or ECNL level players. Some NPL players are able to play U23's to speed up their game play, but let's face it, the speed of play in NPL or NEP is not very good.

          Coaches are looking for talent that can play at college speed, not someone who is great at dribbling around cones.
          Such BS! I’ve seen plenty of NPL teams play vs ECNL teams (and scrimmage DA teams) and the speed of play is the same. Yes the tip top of the ECNL/DA is better than any NPL team, and the bottom of the NPL is probably worse than every ECNL/DA team, but the huge majority that reside in the middle is comparable.

          The ECNL/DA patch sellers are either clubs selling those teams, or parents trying to justify their expense. Every coach who is actively recruiting my NPL player has said the league only matters when it comes to ease of recruiting at the big showcases, but otherwise the best player that fits their program is what they really care about.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Such BS! I’ve seen plenty of NPL teams play vs ECNL teams (and scrimmage DA teams) and the speed of play is the same. Yes the tip top of the ECNL/DA is better than any NPL team, and the bottom of the NPL is probably worse than every ECNL/DA team, but the huge majority that reside in the middle is comparable.

            The ECNL/DA patch sellers are either clubs selling those teams, or parents trying to justify their expense. Every coach who is actively recruiting my NPL player has said the league only matters when it comes to ease of recruiting at the big showcases, but otherwise the best player that fits their program is what they really care about.
            Agree. And the reason that the vast majority of teams in the middle of all those leaves are comparable is because the talent is comparable. Most ECNL/DA teams do have the top 1% NT level players, but the rest of the rosters are comparable and interchangeable with most NPL players.

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              #21
              Top ECNL and GDA players can handle top college ball. Mid level ECNL or GDA or top NPL players can handle mid level college ball, lower...you get the gist. On most teams there will be a variety of player talent from the top starter to the last on the field.

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                #22
                My observation is that most college recruiting classes seem to have a bell shaped curve of incoming talent with a couple players getting "above average" scholarships, a bunch of strong players in the in the middle getting "average" scholarships and at the other end of the curve are a few players getting "less than average" scholarships or even just a roster spot.

                I'd be willing to bet that at most schools (but particularly D-1) a disproportionately large percentage of the players getting the larger scholarships have proven themselves with and against the top competition in the top leagues. Not every roster spot has is the same.

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                  #23
                  If you look at the early commits from the 2004 girls side in New England, one was from ECNL (Stars), one was from DA(NEFC) and one was from NPL(SSS). Of those, I know the NPL commit was also an YNT call-up. Not sure about the others...

                  So, does league matter? Nope, not at all given the above facts. Talent is what matters above all else.

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                    #24
                    That’s great for them, but you might want to look at a bigger sample size.

                    ECNL class of 2018 had 1,507 players. 1,157 of those girls committed to play college soccer (794 of those D1).

                    I don’t see commitment percentages published by GDA or NPL.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      That’s great for them, but you might want to look at a bigger sample size.

                      ECNL class of 2018 had 1,507 players. 1,157 of those girls committed to play college soccer (794 of those D1).

                      I don’t see commitment percentages published by GDA or NPL.
                      If you look at NEFC the info is out there. They listed 17 NPL girls who played on the 1999 team as committed to play in college. The schools ranged from D1 UMass Amherst and UMass Lowell to D3 MIT and plenty of D2's. Even now there are NPL kids at the club verbally committed to schools across all 3 divisions. ECNL isn't necessary for most in MA.

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                        #26
                        So are both leagues equally deep (or shallow) Do coaches show up to both league showcases equally?

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          So are both leagues equally deep (or shallow) Do coaches show up to both league showcases equally?
                          This remains to be seen. However I suspect DA gets more d1 scouts. IMHO

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Yes but many parents over estimate how special their kid is. It's easier to stand out in NPL but that doesn't mean you're well prepared for college. Also the other two leagues definitely have better exposure.
                            The good news is college coaches know the leagues are a mess right now. If you're with a quality club and you're talented and you're working hard the patch matters less.
                            The crux of the problem with a not playing Ecnl/da is just that: it’s relatively much easier to look like a big frog in a tiny pond than it is to look like a big frog in a giant lake. If a player looks great in NPL, a college coach doesn’t know for sure if the same player would look that good in Ecnl and knows that they likely wouldn’t look that good amongst much better competition. The Ecnl stars on the other hand, look like a unicorn Pegasus if they played in NPL. College coaches know this too.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Exception to the rule. To get recruited to that level you have to be special. Few MA players fit that description. Also NPL quality has greatly declined with GDA entering the market because there isn't enough talent for all these leagues. She was recruited awhile ago.
                              She was not recruited "a while ago". This time last year it wasn't even on the radar.

                              Yes, all true about NPL declining, but the reality is still the same: good players will be found. That's been my point all along; thank you for restating it....

                              You may have to work harder, but wearing a patch on your uniform isn't the only pathway to success.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                The crux of the problem with a not playing Ecnl/da is just that: it’s relatively much easier to look like a big frog in a tiny pond than it is to look like a big frog in a giant lake. If a player looks great in NPL, a college coach doesn’t know for sure if the same player would look that good in Ecnl and knows that they likely wouldn’t look that good amongst much better competition. The Ecnl stars on the other hand, look like a unicorn Pegasus if they played in NPL. College coaches know this too.
                                College coaches aren't idiots.

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