Calculating scholarships

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My d’s school keeps scholarships equal or better through all 4 years.

Yeah, you get $2k for three years and then they get generous and give you $3k as a graduation gift.

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Some coaches give little the first year but promise you'll get more if you prove yourself. In such cases it's up to you to decide 1) if you trust the coach to keep his word 2) your honest with the likelihood you'll become an impact player quickly. It's a good move for a coach in that he can watch players to see their dedication, fit the with team etc. It also means players are picking the program and the school, not just the best deal. But obviously the risk is some players will walk because they're not offered much.

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Coach's job is try to save more $$$ for the freshman so they can more attractive for recruiting. After freshmen year, coaches have more leverage since you have less choices. They know you will probably won't leave even if you get less $$$.

And if you are not a top 15 player, they hope you quit so they can give your money to a new recruit.

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Yeah, you get $2k for three years and then they get generous and give you $3k as a graduation gift.

Sorry to ruin your misinformation campaign. Maybe her coaches are more ethical than others.

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Sorry to ruin your misinformation campaign. Maybe her coaches are more ethical than others.

It's not a matter of ethics. Its about how much the coach has to divide across all his players and how much he wants you.

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Sorry to ruin your misinformation campaign. Maybe her coaches are more ethical than others.

That's just the way that poster rolls. Doesn't know a thing about recruiting or what happens in the real world of D1 soccer but that doesn't stop them from trolling and spreading misinformation. Here's the reality. Average scholarship award on the girl's side is 50% over the four year span. A lot of offers will start low the first year and build up. That's very common. Here's the real world experience. My D accepted what would have been considered a low offer to play for the school of her dreams but her performance exceeded their expectations so they doubled her money. In the end the money she received exceeded any of her offers. That's what happens when you target realistically and have the talent to back things up.

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That's just the way that poster rolls. Doesn't know a thing about recruiting or what happens in the real world of D1 soccer but that doesn't stop them from trolling and spreading misinformation. Here's the reality. Average scholarship award on the girl's side is 50% over the four year span. A lot of offers will start low the first year and build up. That's very common. Here's the real world experience. My D accepted what would have been considered a low offer to play for the school of her dreams but her performance exceeded their expectations so they doubled her money. In the end the money she received exceeded any of her offers. That's what happens when you target realistically and have the talent to back things up.

Good for her, but obviously it doesn't always work out that way. Plenty of times players over-reach and the money isn't forthcoming. Like your D for many families a lower $ amount to attend the dream school is a great outcome. But be leery of coaches that promise more $ or even a lot of PT. I know several layers who were burned by empty promises. You can pull old rosters off the internet and look at turnover rates on a team. High turnover could be a red flag.

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Re:#3 —— Is this common for $$ to decrease each year? Was always under the impression you might get the least freshman year and get more the following years if your contribution is impactful.

All depends on the performance of the player. If she make all league, best player on the team, leading scorer, top defensive player etc.... then you can negotiate up. Again, it is a performance base system so it changes year-to-year.

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All depends on the performance of the player. If she make all league, best player on the team, leading scorer, top defensive player etc.... then you can negotiate up. Again, it is a performance base system so it changes year-to-year.

You're also competing against your teammates and recruits for $. If a new coach comes in then your $ may be at risk as well. Only 5 conferences guarantee a 4 year deal. The rest are largely year to year. ABC - Always Be Competing

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That's just the way that poster rolls. Doesn't know a thing about recruiting or what happens in the real world of D1 soccer but that doesn't stop them from trolling and spreading misinformation. Here's the reality. Average scholarship award on the girl's side is 50% over the four year span. A lot of offers will start low the first year and build up. That's very common. Here's the real world experience. My D accepted what would have been considered a low offer to play for the school of her dreams but her performance exceeded their expectations so they doubled her money. In the end the money she received exceeded any of her offers. That's what happens when you target realistically and have the talent to back things up.

More false narratives from you, BTNT. Nice try.

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That's just the way that poster rolls. Doesn't know a thing about recruiting or what happens in the real world of D1 soccer but that doesn't stop them from trolling and spreading misinformation. Here's the reality. Average scholarship award on the girl's side is 50% over the four year span. A lot of offers will start low the first year and build up. That's very common. Here's the real world experience. My D accepted what would have been considered a low offer to play for the school of her dreams but her performance exceeded their expectations so they doubled her money. In the end the money she received exceeded any of her offers. That's what happens when you target realistically and have the talent to back things up.

The important word here is "average". At 14 scholarships for a fully funded program (many D1's are not), you can award 28 players an average of 50% athletic each. 3 or 4 impact players (about 1 per graduating class) will get 100%, another 3-4 will get 75% which means you have already given out between 5.25 and 7 scholarships for 6-8 players. The remaining 20-22 players are fighting for the remaining 7-8.75 scholarships which means those kids are often getting 33%, 25%, or less (especially if you are an in-state kid applying to a state school, at which most coaches look at what you would pay vs going to a private school and use that to their advantage).

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All depends on the performance of the player. If she make all league, best player on the team, leading scorer, top defensive player etc.... then you can negotiate up. Again, it is a performance base system so it changes year-to-year.

Which is exactly why the tired advice that leads to reach situations is so wrong. Your kid is far better targeting a school where they potentially can be a big fish in a small pond rather than a reach situation.

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The important word here is "average". At 14 scholarships for a fully funded program (many D1's are not), you can award 28 players an average of 50% athletic each. 3 or 4 impact players (about 1 per graduating class) will get 100%, another 3-4 will get 75% which means you have already given out between 5.25 and 7 scholarships for 6-8 players. The remaining 20-22 players are fighting for the remaining 7-8.75 scholarships which means those kids are often getting 33%, 25%, or less (especially if you are an in-state kid applying to a state school, at which most coaches look at what you would pay vs going to a private school and use that to their advantage).

Fortunately on the women's side most programs are fully funded. Thank you title 9

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The important word here is "average". At 14 scholarships for a fully funded program (many D1's are not), you can award 28 players an average of 50% athletic each. 3 or 4 impact players (about 1 per graduating class) will get 100%, another 3-4 will get 75% which means you have already given out between 5.25 and 7 scholarships for 6-8 players. The remaining 20-22 players are fighting for the remaining 7-8.75 scholarships which means those kids are often getting 33%, 25%, or less (especially if you are an in-state kid applying to a state school, at which most coaches look at what you would pay vs going to a private school and use that to their advantage).

There is a real simple way to gauge who is getting money. Extract out the obvious injuries and then look at the players who are listed on the roster and play less than roughly 15-10% of the teams total minutes for the year. There may also some kids who are listed on the roster but who do not have a stat line. The players in those categories will be getting virtually nothing for a scholarship so back them out of the calculation. It changes the above metrics considerably. Instead of spreading out the money between 28 players, most coaches tend to really end up only spreading out their scholarship money between the 18-20 players that are impacting out on the field. That way they can give an average of 70% to the players. That speaks to the value of conservatively targeting programs where the player projects to be either an early starter or at least a early high minute player.

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It's been described as a bell curve - with the super studs on one end getting 70%+ and the bench warmers on the other end getting <20%. The bulk of the curve is getting 30-60%ish 9assuming fully funded and a typical sized roster).