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Yes, it's great that Reign players are getting national team call ins. That's something to be proud of. But we all know that bulk of kids in the DA system will never get that national camp call up. So my question remains: what is the organization's responsibility to those other players who are paying the same amount in team fees? Is there a commitment to maximizing every player's development, or are the rest of the kids' there just to give the stars of the moment someone to train with? Yes, this is a problem at every club...but DA pulls in the top talent with a promise of development and a lot of talent gets lost. This is an issue for Reign, and the entire DA system.
You get an opportunity to compete. I don't really hear any complaints about coaching at the Reign. You are the customer and are paying a lot of money. If the Reign or any club not delivering what they promised then you are free to spend your money elsewhere.

Look at the rules for DA. It is not set up so that everyone gets equal playing time.
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You get an opportunity to compete. I don't really hear any complaints about coaching at the Reign. You are the customer and are paying a lot of money. If the Reign or any club not delivering what they promised then you are free to spend your money elsewhere.

Look at the rules for DA. It is not set up so that everyone gets equal playing time.
First of all, there are multiple coaches at Reign, so one person's experience with coaches for one team may not be what's going on from other teams. if the problems are just with a couple of coaches, that news may not reach the public because not as many kids impacted. But be real: at the Reign level, intense soccer parents are not going to complain publicly and have their kid suffer. When parents were rumored to complain to one another, they got angry emails back from the director. The "stars" sure won't complain because they get better treatment.

If your kid reaches that level of soccer you know playing time is not demanded, it's earned. You know the DA sub rules going in. I thought that all kids would be evaluated fairly and helped to reach full potential because ever girl on every Reign team is very talented. unless you believe what somebody else posted that Reign will "take anyone." I don't believe that. I see talented kids being discouraged since TK left.

Also true that some coaches and players work better together. A great coach for one kid may not be a good coach for another. Reign works for a lot of kids. Nobody should decide on their daughter's team based on anonymous comments, but obviously I'm one parent who left unhappy. ECNL has worked out great. It's good to have options.
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First of all, there are multiple coaches at Reign, so one person's experience with coaches for one team may not be what's going on from other teams. if the problems are just with a couple of coaches, that news may not reach the public because not as many kids impacted. But be real: at the Reign level, intense soccer parents are not going to complain publicly and have their kid suffer. When parents were rumored to complain to one another, they got angry emails back from the director. The "stars" sure won't complain because they get better treatment.

If your kid reaches that level of soccer you know playing time is not demanded, it's earned. You know the DA sub rules going in. I thought that all kids would be evaluated fairly and helped to reach full potential because ever girl on every Reign team is very talented. unless you believe what somebody else posted that Reign will "take anyone." I don't believe that. I see talented kids being discouraged since TK left.

Also true that some coaches and players work better together. A great coach for one kid may not be a good coach for another. Reign works for a lot of kids. Nobody should decide on their daughter's team based on anonymous comments, but obviously I'm one parent who left unhappy. ECNL has worked out great. It's good to have options.
Yep you should be allowed to move your daughter (and your wallet) wherever you see fit ! You are a customer after all .
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Heard that Reign has funding for next year 2019-2020.
Can anyone confirm this?
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Heard that Reign has funding for next year 2019-2020.
Can anyone confirm this?
The Reign have repeatedly said, in writing, that they are 100% committed to 2019/2020 and beyond, and that the academy teams will continue to alternate practice locations between Seattle and the Eastside. It doesnít take a lot of math to figure out that a big chunk of the program expense is covered by the program fees, USSF supports some scholarships in DA, and the first teamís cash flow situation will likely be a lot better in Tacoma than it was at Memorial. Their academy teams remain solid, and they continue to attract strong new players. The DA has its issues, and its model isnít for everyone (particularly multi-sport athletes or those who put a premium on playing in high school), but there are a lot of happy kids and families in the program. A lot of the other stuff being said around here is just FUD, fake news, and sour grapes.
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The Reign have repeatedly said, in writing, that they are 100% committed to 2019/2020 and beyond, and that the academy teams will continue to alternate practice locations between Seattle and the Eastside. It doesnít take a lot of math to figure out that a big chunk of the program expense is covered by the program fees, USSF supports some scholarships in DA, and the first teamís cash flow situation will likely be a lot better in Tacoma than it was at Memorial. Their academy teams remain solid, and they continue to attract strong new players. The DA has its issues, and its model isnít for everyone (particularly multi-sport athletes or those who put a premium on playing in high school), but there are a lot of happy kids and families in the program. A lot of the other stuff being said around here is just FUD, fake news, and sour grapes.
I think what the Reign have done is cool, from afar. When someone asks about funding, I'm not sure what that means in this case; pay-to-play means if they have paying families, they have funding.

One part I didn't follow though is your math on programming - curious what families paid this year, all-in, and what they will be projected to pay next year. Xfire has funded some of their teams, but there are a bunch of caveats and requirements. Just curious what a typical Reign family paid this year and what they will pay next year. Mostly trying to gauge program costs across GDA, ECNL, and WYSA (for teams that travel).
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I think what the Reign have done is cool, from afar. When someone asks about funding, I'm not sure what that means in this case; pay-to-play means if they have paying families, they have funding.

One part I didn't follow though is your math on programming - curious what families paid this year, all-in, and what they will be projected to pay next year. Xfire has funded some of their teams, but there are a bunch of caveats and requirements. Just curious what a typical Reign family paid this year and what they will pay next year. Mostly trying to gauge program costs across GDA, ECNL, and WYSA (for teams that travel).
Reign is about $8500, inclusive of travel costs. I believe SU, Pac, XF and WPFC ECNL have been about the same; top level teams from Rush or Surf playing in National League + surf cup + some winter showcase cost about the same as well. XF DA was largely if not entirely subsidized the past couple years, but it sounds like next year they will be covering ECNL travel costs only with a contribution from what the rake in from all the other clubs in the state in tournament fees and their b-d team families. XFís subsidies havenít kept Reign from getting and keeping quite a few players that any club would want; Iím sure the subsidies have helped them retain quite a few players too.

Reign, like all the other clubs, has financial aid. US Soccer also has a separate DA scholarship program that it funds directly; Iím not sure whether that program is entirely need-based. Iím sure there are a lot of families who wouldnít qualify for financial aid who canít stomach paying $8500 for kidsí soccer (whether financially or just as a matter of family priorities), and that pay-to-play of this magnitude dilutes the quality of the player pool this country is developing, but thatís a much broader problem that no one seems to be addressing in any meaningful fashion.
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Reign is about $8500, inclusive of travel costs. I believe SU, Pac, XF and WPFC ECNL have been about the same; top level teams from Rush or Surf playing in National League + surf cup + some winter showcase cost about the same as well. XF DA was largely if not entirely subsidized the past couple years, but it sounds like next year they will be covering ECNL travel costs only with a contribution from what the rake in from all the other clubs in the state in tournament fees and their b-d team families. XFís subsidies havenít kept Reign from getting and keeping quite a few players that any club would want; Iím sure the subsidies have helped them retain quite a few players too.

Reign, like all the other clubs, has financial aid. US Soccer also has a separate DA scholarship program that it funds directly; Iím not sure whether that program is entirely need-based. Iím sure there are a lot of families who wouldnít qualify for financial aid who canít stomach paying $8500 for kidsí soccer (whether financially or just as a matter of family priorities), and that pay-to-play of this magnitude dilutes the quality of the player pool this country is developing, but thatís a much broader problem that no one seems to be addressing in any meaningful fashion.
Thank you that is very helpful
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Reign is about $8500, inclusive of travel costs. I believe SU, Pac, XF and WPFC ECNL have been about the same; top level teams from Rush or Surf playing in National League + surf cup + some winter showcase cost about the same as well. XF DA was largely if not entirely subsidized the past couple years, but it sounds like next year they will be covering ECNL travel costs only with a contribution from what the rake in from all the other clubs in the state in tournament fees and their b-d team families. XFís subsidies havenít kept Reign from getting and keeping quite a few players that any club would want; Iím sure the subsidies have helped them retain quite a few players too.

Reign, like all the other clubs, has financial aid. US Soccer also has a separate DA scholarship program that it funds directly; Iím not sure whether that program is entirely need-based. Iím sure there are a lot of families who wouldnít qualify for financial aid who canít stomach paying $8500 for kidsí soccer (whether financially or just as a matter of family priorities), and that pay-to-play of this magnitude dilutes the quality of the player pool this country is developing, but thatís a much broader problem that no one seems to be addressing in any meaningful fashion.
The cost is mostly in the travel. It is a problem that US Soccer made worse by creating the girl's DA because your club season is now longer which means more travel games.

If all the value is in the training then there has to be a cheaper way to get in meaningful games. As it is right now, every away game (that is not to Portland) is about $300 to $500 per game.
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