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I know some state associations give big bucks to support teams going to regionals. Something in the range of $4000-$6000 per team.

I assume OYSA is stepping up this year and giving big support to the teams going to regionals?

OYSA/timbers cough up a couple hundred bucks per team. That'll get each player a rice bowl and a gatorade after a game. Real generous if you ask me.

Low income families and kids can't might not be able to go but there are much worse things in life.
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It is understandable that Hawaii has to spend a lot of money to travel to every event/tournament. I am sure that makes it very expensive for them. It is their choice to live on an island.

The math above is not correct. There aren't 600 teams at regionals. It's 220 teams and estimated 4,000 players (source FWR website). Still at $2500 per player that is $10,000,000.00 of travel costs. You could cut that by 60% if you had it on the mainland.

I am sure US Soccer officials won't be worried about the kids that can't afford to travel while they are sitting by the pool charging another rum-colada drink to their expense account while applying suntan lotion.

I am sure US Soccer doesn't care about the pay-to-play model. If I were them I would be more concerned about the pool bar and who is going to rub suntan lotion on my back.
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I am sure US Soccer doesn't care about the pay-to-play model. If I were them I would be more concerned about the pool bar and who is going to rub suntan lotion on my back.
My understanding is that US Soccer charges a very high fee to get into Regionals and then mark up the hotel rooms substantially with stay and play.

Does US Soccer get a kick back on the hotel rooms they require teams to book through?
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My understanding is that US Soccer charges a very high fee to get into Regionals and then mark up the hotel rooms substantially with stay and play.

Does US Soccer get a kick back on the hotel rooms they require teams to book through?
Most tournaments do so YES.
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My understanding is that US Soccer charges a very high fee to get into Regionals and then mark up the hotel rooms substantially with stay and play.

Does US Soccer get a kick back on the hotel rooms they require teams to book through?
if there are 4,000 kids going, that's 1,000 hotel rooms for 8 nights. 8,000 hotel nights x $40 markup is a big number. Thanks US Soccer!
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Who decided to have regionals in Hawaii?

Soccer is already expensive as is. Putting regionals in Hawaii, one of the more expensive places to travel to, is a slap in the face to fight against pay-to-play.

Airfare about $1000.
Hotel for eight days $500.
Coaches air/hotel $400
Fee to US Soccer $100
Food $300
Vans $200

Over $2,500 per player. About 600 teams competing. Over $22 million dollars!

Entire boys teams have voted to pass on regionals this year if they win because of the cost.

When regionals are in Seattle or Boise you can cut your hotel short if you are eliminated. Can't do that in Hawaii.

It's not surprising. US Soccer doesn't seem to care about the kids or the game.
That's a lot of money for rec-level play too. Better off to do Thornz Asylum and get the same level of play for less cash.
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I know some state associations give big bucks to support teams going to regionals. Something in the range of $4000-$6000 per team.

I assume OYSA is stepping up this year and giving big support to the teams going to regionals?
OYSA has no money. All the money goes directly to the pockets of Peregrine LLC. And they aren't spending a dime to help any OYSA rec team go to Hawaii.
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As you know, Region IV decides where to have regionals. States put in a proposal to host and they must be able to have a minimum number of fields. The region changes up who the host state will be in order to make everything fair for all teams traveling from all over our region. Same could be said about Hawaii's teams always traveling to the mainland. Hawaii was announced in August 2017. Last time there was 2013. I had kids there in 2003 and 2008 as well as 2013. Now have a granddaughter that could go this year.

Yes. Hawaii is expensive and teams need to plan carefully, especially since our state has state cup later than many of the other states within or region. Makes it tough to rent rooms and transportation.

So tired of the "US Soccer doesn't seem to care about the kids or the game" whining. Not true. If you can't afford for your player to go, then you keep him/her off the team roster for state cup. If your team wins and can't go, then the finalist has the option to go in your team's place. If the finalist says, "No", then you pay the fines. Your team shouldn't enter state cup if it's not prepared to travel for the next level, and even the rare occasion of making it to Nationals. Your team has the option not to go. It happens. You pay fines to the region and OYSA for non-compliance. Your team could also face sanctions.
Region IV doesn't exist anymore. All "regional" competitions are now centrally managed by US Youth Soccer national HQ directly.
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My understanding is that US Soccer charges a very high fee to get into Regionals and then mark up the hotel rooms substantially with stay and play.

Does US Soccer get a kick back on the hotel rooms they require teams to book through?
US Soccer will fine you $1,500 if you donít go through their Stay and Pay program. So they are probably getting a that much x 200 teams. Nice profits. Well done!
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OYSA/timbers cough up a couple hundred bucks per team. That'll get each player a rice bowl and a gatorade after a game. Real generous if you ask me.

Low income families and kids can't might not be able to go but there are much worse things in life.
Oysa makes huge profits on leagues and cups. They should have huge cash reserves.
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