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    #46
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    It can't be a scam as they didn't take your DD even though you offered to pay 5x the normal rate.
    Oh go play in the Silver bracket of the Vegas Cup and be done with it already.

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      #47
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      I'm tired of the bashing. The kids are playing soccer and that's what's important. Why can't we all just enjoy the game and celebrate the wins? Everything doesn't have to be top shelf.
      The critics are gonna critic. You can't help that.

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        #48
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        The critics are gonna critic. You can't help that.
        Just ignore them.

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          #49
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          OYSA games don't count.
          FWRL games don't count.
          Beaverton cup is embarrassing.

          How did someone think this was a good idea?
          Are the Timbers involved? I think you have your answer...

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            #50
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Are the Timbers involved? I think you have your answer...
            Timbers make a mess of all youth soccer they touch.

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              #51
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              I'm tired of the bashing. The kids are playing soccer and that's what's important. Why can't we all just enjoy the game and celebrate the wins? Everything doesn't have to be top shelf.
              Why is u18 thornz playing down in u17 in far west league? What does that accomplish? Shouldn't they be playing up instead of down?

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                #52
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Why is u18 thornz playing down in u17 in far west league? What does that accomplish? Shouldn't they be playing up instead of down?
                They aren't even good enough to play down. Nothing but a bunch of Timbers Alliance B-teamers.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Why is u18 thornz playing down in u17 in far west league? What does that accomplish? Shouldn't they be playing up instead of down?
                  You people have no idea, do you?

                  College scouts recommend playing down. The slower speed of play allows you to perfect your moves and better showcase your abilities.

                  Faster speed of play against bigger, stronger, faster teams makes it much harder to stand out and improve. If your player is struggling to keep up and confused tactically that isn't going to look so good for the scouts now is it?

                  Now does it make sense?

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    You people have no idea, do you?

                    College scouts recommend playing down. The slower speed of play allows you to perfect your moves and better showcase your abilities.

                    Faster speed of play against bigger, stronger, faster teams makes it much harder to stand out and improve. If your player is struggling to keep up and confused tactically that isn't going to look so good for the scouts now is it?

                    Now does it make sense?
                    So that's what those knucklehead thorns parents are being told. Got it.

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                      #55
                      Better idea.

                      Oregon Ecnl parents are told their kid is going to be develop like never before.

                      1. Overload the rosters to keep costs down. Yeah that means kids aren't even playing or traveling. Don't say a word because not only are the kids who are playing having to split time but if you do you won't go. How's your 10k look now?

                      2. Keep the same coaches who don't develop worth a damn. Shhhh it's ok no one will notice.

                      3. Never mind the teams already cant even beat a team 10 miles from them, let's have them play a team 5 hours away...well not all the kids..see #1

                      4. The teams they play are either extremely bad like them or good (any team can go to a tournament to play a good team). But regardless their coach brings in guest players that don't train with the team and just take time away simply because the coach needs to get wins. That doesn't include #1

                      5. Colleges!! Well you will find the same clubs around the country continue to put kids into college just like they have before. You will also find the same local kids are going to the same local schools regardless of the money they spent. Every year 4-5 kids go somewhere like AZ or somewhere else but that number hasn't changed but they are paying more and actually achieving the same or less. Showcases are a dime a dozen and Ecnl ones aren't any better and actually worse considering the demographic of where kids in Oregon go to college. The offers are coming from coaches who don't even go to their showcases or never needed to in the first place. You spend more, develop less and risk more.

                      6. You come to find out that the parent group you are with is anxious and gullible. They were sold on this because the coach referenced some team from somewhere that was good so that means this team is good because they play them once a year or not at all. You also come to find out that that same coach is trying to recruit like crazy even though they are saying your kid is going to get developed.

                      7. Parents are finding out their kids team isn't as good as they were sold on and now realize if they don't get the good players from the other clubs their team will continue to fly 5 hours to be a doormat or play mediocre teams. So not only are the worried they have to recruit the kids they continue to talk trash about. Yes the fc portland parent who singled out players on here. That's a nasty parent group by the way.

                      8. Notice the younger teams that aren't fooling anyone anymore and no one is joining. They are mediocre and probably will end up being worse because of the above.

                      9. Don't fall for the onyx blast from parents saying cu team got x amount of kids into college. Those kids were going anyway and didn't need to spend 10k a year to go to psu to get 2k a year to play. It's a joke. They were good before all of it and didn't need to go through the Circus and many under achieved.

                      10. Wise up. Thorns academy may end up being rediculous but don't even think that Ecnl Oregon is anything more then smoke and mirrors run by bait and recruit clubs.

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                        #56
                        That's too much information for the Oregon Ecnl crowd. They were sold gold I tell you. Don't tell them otherwise but act surprised when they tell you that they need better players....

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Better idea.

                          Oregon Ecnl parents are told their kid is going to be develop like never before.

                          1. Overload the rosters to keep costs down. Yeah that means kids aren't even playing or traveling. Don't say a word because not only are the kids who are playing having to split time but if you do you won't go. How's your 10k look now?

                          2. Keep the same coaches who don't develop worth a damn. Shhhh it's ok no one will notice.

                          3. Never mind the teams already cant even beat a team 10 miles from them, let's have them play a team 5 hours away...well not all the kids..see #1

                          4. The teams they play are either extremely bad like them or good (any team can go to a tournament to play a good team). But regardless their coach brings in guest players that don't train with the team and just take time away simply because the coach needs to get wins. That doesn't include #1

                          5. Colleges!! Well you will find the same clubs around the country continue to put kids into college just like they have before. You will also find the same local kids are going to the same local schools regardless of the money they spent. Every year 4-5 kids go somewhere like AZ or somewhere else but that number hasn't changed but they are paying more and actually achieving the same or less. Showcases are a dime a dozen and Ecnl ones aren't any better and actually worse considering the demographic of where kids in Oregon go to college. The offers are coming from coaches who don't even go to their showcases or never needed to in the first place. You spend more, develop less and risk more.

                          6. You come to find out that the parent group you are with is anxious and gullible. They were sold on this because the coach referenced some team from somewhere that was good so that means this team is good because they play them once a year or not at all. You also come to find out that that same coach is trying to recruit like crazy even though they are saying your kid is going to get developed.

                          7. Parents are finding out their kids team isn't as good as they were sold on and now realize if they don't get the good players from the other clubs their team will continue to fly 5 hours to be a doormat or play mediocre teams. So not only are the worried they have to recruit the kids they continue to talk trash about. Yes the fc portland parent who singled out players on here. That's a nasty parent group by the way.

                          8. Notice the younger teams that aren't fooling anyone anymore and no one is joining. They are mediocre and probably will end up being worse because of the above.

                          9. Don't fall for the onyx blast from parents saying cu team got x amount of kids into college. Those kids were going anyway and didn't need to spend 10k a year to go to psu to get 2k a year to play. It's a joke. They were good before all of it and didn't need to go through the Circus and many under achieved.

                          10. Wise up. Thorns academy may end up being rediculous but don't even think that Ecnl Oregon is anything more then smoke and mirrors run by bait and recruit clubs.
                          That's a bit more accurate then most people are used to on here.

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                            #58
                            What's so sad is the above is true. I wish ECNL in Oregon could be great because we have the players here in state to make us top 25. They just don't play ECNL because the two clubs that have it don't develop the players and the really talented kids see that so they don't join. Maybe this problem should be highlighted to the ECNL league.

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              You people have no idea, do you?

                              College scouts recommend playing down. The slower speed of play allows you to perfect your moves and better showcase your abilities.

                              Faster speed of play against bigger, stronger, faster teams makes it much harder to stand out and improve. If your player is struggling to keep up and confused tactically that isn't going to look so good for the scouts now is it?

                              Now does it make sense?
                              Winner!

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                                #60
                                30 ECNL alum drafted by the NWSL today (out of 40 players selected). 8 out of the 10 first round picks are ECNL alum. We are happy with our decision.

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