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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Bubb’s Lawyers will love this. Munoz you can’t hide.
    Providing smoke requesting an investigation of a non-profit is encouraged not unlawful. Kind of like whistleblowers. If FESA and Bubb can withstand an investigation and come out smelling like a rose, then Bubb will be vindicated. If not, then oh well, good thing there was an investigation. Right? Surely, Bubbs has nothing to worry about.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Would you let him slip your missus a length if it got your daughter promoted?
      You are a sick puppy. So you would? Or at least thinking about it? Feel sorry for your wife and your kid. I mean, there is such a thing as taking one for the team but really???

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        What do recreation advisory meetings have to do with any of this? I’d like to know why they had 400k+ travel expenses personally. That seems tres’ fishy.
        400K for 100 coaches per year. 4k per coach. Say coach travels for 20 league games and 4 out of town tournaments. Per Diem is $50 day and Mileage is .50 cents a mile. That are a little short on purpose to keep numbers even. Lets say 5 of those league weekends require 2 night hotel stay at $100.

        League play:

        20 x $50 = 1000
        10 x 1000 = 1000
        mileage = 1000

        Tournaments:

        The extra 1000

        It's not that hard to understand. This isn't including showcases or the fact that some teams play in 6 tournaments.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          400K for 100 coaches per year. 4k per coach. Say coach travels for 20 league games and 4 out of town tournaments. Per Diem is $50 day and Mileage is .50 cents a mile. That are a little short on purpose to keep numbers even. Lets say 5 of those league weekends require 2 night hotel stay at $100.

          League play:

          20 x $50 = 1000
          10 x 1000 = 1000
          mileage = 1000

          Tournaments:

          The extra 1000

          It's not that hard to understand. This isn't including showcases or the fact that some teams play in 6 tournaments.
          I think you are missing the point. Travel costs for teams and coach are funded through separate team accounts managed by team dad/mom and travel fees collected from families. Those expenses should not be on FESAs books so the 400K has nothing to do with regular travel. Probably Bubb and Mail and their families travelling to Europe every summer maybe but not for 400K. You would hope.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            400K for 100 coaches per year. 4k per coach. Say coach travels for 20 league games and 4 out of town tournaments. Per Diem is $50 day and Mileage is .50 cents a mile. That are a little short on purpose to keep numbers even. Lets say 5 of those league weekends require 2 night hotel stay at $100.

            League play:

            20 x $50 = 1000
            10 x 1000 = 1000
            mileage = 1000

            Tournaments:

            The extra 1000

            It's not that hard to understand. This isn't including showcases or the fact that some teams play in 6 tournaments.
            The team managers pay the individual coaches their expenses from the team accounts. FESA dosent know what coaches get for expenses as each team has different travel and per diems. Plus there isn’t 100 competitive coaches, 20-30 as most coach 2-3 teams. More in Bubbs case.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              I think you are missing the point. Travel costs for teams and coach are funded through separate team accounts managed by team dad/mom and travel fees collected from families. Those expenses should not be on FESAs books so the 400K has nothing to do with regular travel. Probably Bubb and Mail and their families travelling to Europe every summer maybe but not for 400K. You would hope.
              Is Bubb's private LLC a travel agency where he is CEO making an extra 400K a year on top of his 200K FESA salary? The only customer for his travel company a single client listed with address at Veterans Park? HMMMMM

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                400K for 100 coaches per year. 4k per coach. Say coach travels for 20 league games and 4 out of town tournaments. Per Diem is $50 day and Mileage is .50 cents a mile. That are a little short on purpose to keep numbers even. Lets say 5 of those league weekends require 2 night hotel stay at $100.

                League play:

                20 x $50 = 1000
                10 x 1000 = 1000
                mileage = 1000

                Tournaments:

                The extra 1000

                It's not that hard to understand. This isn't including showcases or the fact that some teams play in 6 tournaments.
                You clearly haven’t done much accounting.

                The TEAMS pay for the coaches mileage, plane tickets, hotels with team fees. The 400k has nothing to do with coaches taking their teams to league games or tournaments. Team managers collect from parents and pay out to the coaches. The is 400k that FESA is writing off beyond that travel that teams are already covering. And the number shocking, it just is really exorbitant for that type of organization

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  You clearly haven’t done much accounting.

                  The TEAMS pay for the coaches mileage, plane tickets, hotels with team fees. The 400k has nothing to do with coaches taking their teams to league games or tournaments. Team managers collect from parents and pay out to the coaches. The is 400k that FESA is writing off beyond that travel that teams are already covering. And the number shocking, it just is really exorbitant for that type of organization
                  My wife was a team manager a couple years back and when the team finished at U18 she went to reimburse the families their share of the money left in the FESA bank account and it had been taken. When she reached out to the admin lady ( no longer at FESA) she got no reply. It wasnt much but makes you wonder where some of these funds actually go.

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                    It goes quiet when all the coaches and parents are at training

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      I think you are missing the point. Travel costs for teams and coach are funded through separate team accounts managed by team dad/mom and travel fees collected from families. Those expenses should not be on FESAs books so the 400K has nothing to do with regular travel. Probably Bubb and Mail and their families travelling to Europe every summer maybe but not for 400K. You would hope.
                      I think you are missing the point of a balance sheet. The team accounts are recorded under revenue and the travel expenses are under expenses. **** that is accounting 101

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                        This is long overdue.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          I think you are missing the point. Travel costs for teams and coach are funded through separate team accounts managed by team dad/mom and travel fees collected from families. Those expenses should not be on FESAs books so the 400K has nothing to do with regular travel. Probably Bubb and Mail and their families travelling to Europe every summer maybe but not for 400K. You would hope.
                          They might be managed by team dad/mom but they are definitely part of FESAs books. Do you really think a proper organization would allow 1 parent to collect and pay out fund raising activities, travel funds and tournament fees that runs into the $10,000 range without oversight? That would be a recipe for fraud on a massive scale.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            They might be managed by team dad/mom but they are definitely part of FESAs books. Do you really think a proper organization would allow 1 parent to collect and pay out fund raising activities, travel funds and tournament fees that runs into the $10,000 range without oversight? That would be a recipe for fraud on a massive scale.

                            YES, they allow it... i am a team manager!

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              They might be managed by team dad/mom but they are definitely part of FESAs books. Do you really think a proper organization would allow 1 parent to collect and pay out fund raising activities, travel funds and tournament fees that runs into the $10,000 range without oversight? That would be a recipe for fraud on a massive scale.
                              Delightful news for someone who cares. On a separate but related issue.

                              Pat, your truth is not worth $1750
                              Pat, your tears are not worth $1750
                              Pat, your hate for Bubb is not worth $1750
                              Pat, Meg & Morgan, the rest ALL need to go! ALL
                              Pat, this club’s lack of loyalty is not worth $1750
                              Pat, this club’s definition of integrity is not worth $1750
                              Pat, this club’s passion is misaligned
                              Pat, you’ve just expanded FESA by 100 families
                              Pat, playing Ancient City 4x next year in EDP is not worth $1750
                              Pat, pulling out of FCL is not a plan
                              Pat, thinking Bubb would not retaliate was amateurish
                              Pat, Bubb is living rent free in your head
                              Pat, your advisors continue to fail you
                              Pat, you run JFC
                              Pat, leadership is about making the unpopular, but necessary decisions
                              Pat, you’re not getting a favorable appeal
                              Pat, you’re not getting $1750
                              Pat, ECNL ID clinic on May 1st won’t stop us from going to FESA
                              Pat, my kid doesn’t have a league to play in anymore!
                              Pat, filing a lawsuit is not a plan
                              Pat, crying to John Bachman, is not a plan
                              Pat, are you listening?
                              Pat, I’m not giving you $1750
                              Pat, what’s the plan?

                              No plan Pat. That’s your new name.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                They might be managed by team dad/mom but they are definitely part of FESAs books. Do you really think a proper organization would allow 1 parent to collect and pay out fund raising activities, travel funds and tournament fees that runs into the $10,000 range without oversight? That would be a recipe for fraud on a massive scale.
                                With the ease of electronic banking and FESA having office managers it is time for parents to make any payments to FESA’s office and not team parents collecting money. Same with any start up soccer clubs. Pay the club directly. We never liked the team mom having a credit card and the coach calling for dinners out at fancy restaurants and the kids ordering whatever they wanted. Then the parents were charged equally to split the cost of the players, coach and coach’s wife’s meals. This all run through the FESA team account credit card.

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