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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    They have, but you just keep calling them liars. Every year there are a handful of families that find out the actual truth. Those like you that don't know it, just help pay the freight for them. They should just thank you.
    And the lies continue (right after the denials)

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      Thank you Perspective for all of your hard work exposing the lies and deceit on TS. Now if you only knew something, anything, about the things you comment on the universe would be in harmony

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Thank you Perspective for all of your hard work exposing the lies and deceit on TS. Now if you only knew something, anything, about the things you comment on the universe would be in harmony
        LOL. What is it that Perspective doesn't know? That the ISLs give out very generous athletic scholarships to superstar athletes?

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          Couple of facts to add to this discussion.

          The PFS from the SSS takes more into account when establishing a family's financial need than the FAFSA does.

          None of the prep schools automatically funds every admitted student's demonstrated need and they're able to use a good amount of discretion over who they direct their pot of financial aid money to.

          As long as the school funds up to and doesn't exceed a family's demonstrated need there are no issues.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Couple of facts to add to this discussion.

            The PFS from the SSS takes more into account when establishing a family's financial need than the FAFSA does.

            None of the prep schools automatically funds every admitted student's demonstrated need and they're able to use a good amount of discretion over who they direct their pot of financial aid money to.

            As long as the school funds up to and doesn't exceed a family's demonstrated need there are no issues.
            No surprises there. If there is the need (and the determination of need can be a little flexible) then the school can meet that need for the recruited athlete, without meeting the need of other similarly situated students. But, that is a far cry from athletic scholarships.


            Hey, maybe the poster of: "What do you want to know. School cost @45. I pay 7. It sure aint because we are broke." thinks he is rich because he makes 50k per year and has the biggest double wide in the whole trailer park.

            But the two earner professional couple pulling down 300-500k are not getting scholarships to high schools.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              No surprises there. If there is the need (and the determination of need can be a little flexible) then the school can meet that need for the recruited athlete, without meeting the need of other similarly situated students. But, that is a far cry from athletic scholarships.


              Hey, maybe the poster of: "What do you want to know. School cost @45. I pay 7. It sure aint because we are broke." thinks he is rich because he makes 50k per year and has the biggest double wide in the whole trailer park.

              But the two earner professional couple pulling down 300-500k are not getting scholarships to high schools.
              Meeting the "need" for athletes and then not meeting the need for other admitted students would seem to be a dubious practice. But even that is a far, far cry from throwing a ton of money in the direction of athletes who have no demonstrated need.

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                Most colleges and most private high schools do not claim to meet the demonstrated "need" for all their students. Sure, they will stretch for the special athlete, but they will also stretch for certain other kids that they want to round out the class.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Most colleges and most private high schools do not claim to meet the demonstrated "need" for all their students. Sure, they will stretch for the special athlete, but they will also stretch for certain other kids that they want to round out the class.
                  Actually, the most reputable colleges and prep schools do vow to meet all demonstrated need. And what is your definition of stretching? Does that include knocking 90% off the price where there is no need at all???

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Actually, the most reputable colleges and prep schools do vow to meet all demonstrated need. And what is your definition of stretching? Does that include knocking 90% off the price where there is no need at all???
                    Actually, they don't--unless you're simply defining "the most reputable" in terms of those that do. Most reputable colleges are not "need blind," since that is a very expensive proposition that requires a particularly large endowment.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Actually, the most reputable colleges and prep schools do vow to meet all demonstrated need. And what is your definition of stretching? Does that include knocking 90% off the price where there is no need at all???
                      I think this needs to be read more closely. The poster writes "the most reputable". Strictly speaking, this may be true. The top two or three Ivy schools and NESCAC schools do claim to try to meet all need, although i think Williams may have backed away from that. But that position is taken by very very few colleges.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        I think this needs to be read more closely. The poster writes "the most reputable". Strictly speaking, this may be true. The top two or three Ivy schools and NESCAC schools do claim to try to meet all need, although i think Williams may have backed away from that. But that position is taken by very very few colleges.
                        Read as closely as you want. The fact remains that even schools that cannot meet all need choose to spend their limited "need" money for non-need families (even if the kid is Beethoven). Because that would be merit aid.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Read as closely as you want. The fact remains that even schools that cannot meet all need choose to spend their limited "need" money for non-need families (even if the kid is Beethoven). Because that would be merit aid.
                          That is patently untrue. If you had the slightest evidence it was true you would have had out with it long ago. What stinks about loudmouths like you working overtime is that people who don't know better are misinformed.

                          What schools do what you claim? If you can't name names then all should see it as just bitter grapes.

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                            Still all boils down to the need number and what blowhard doesn't seem to know is that the need numbers generated by the SSS PFS generally produces a higher need number than the FAFSA does because it allows families to put things like their soccer costs into the equation. As long as a school funds up to the need number there is no issue of wrong doing. Now where the athletes typically benefit is they get their need number met 100%

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Still all boils down to the need number and what blowhard doesn't seem to know is that the need numbers generated by the SSS PFS generally produces a higher need number than the FAFSA does because it allows families to put things like their soccer costs into the equation. As long as a school funds up to the need number there is no issue of wrong doing. Now where the athletes typically benefit is they get their need number met 100%
                              A voice of reason!

                              Of course, you are referring to recruited athletes.

                              But your statement is still a long way from the athletic dollars other posters imply are available for private high schools.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Still all boils down to the need number and what blowhard doesn't seem to know is that the need numbers generated by the SSS PFS generally produces a higher need number than the FAFSA does because it allows families to put things like their soccer costs into the equation. As long as a school funds up to the need number there is no issue of wrong doing. Now where the athletes typically benefit is they get their need number met 100%
                                This response is so dumb it broke the internet.

                                Prestigious schools in this area are meeting 100% of need. When they project that they cannot meet need they downshift into non-need-blind admissions policy. This means that the applicant is weighed (partially) on his ability to pay full freight. It is an embarrassment to schools to do this and, typically, the top schools in the country do not need to resort to it. In no sense is athletic merit EVER taken into account when deciding to meet or not meet demonstrated need. When a student has competing offers (which could describe and athlete or a very high achieving student) the school will be increasingly willing to hear an appeal of formulaic need. But if there is no case then there is no appeal. You can't just say your kid runs the 100 in record time. Financial aid people only care about policy. They could not care less about what is happening in the athletic department. They are connected to the admissions department and they are part of the strategic effort to increase yield at the expense of their competitors. If you are the greatest athlete in the world (or greatest pianist or simply aced the entrance exam) you will not get a whole-hearted audience on the FA appeal unless you have another offer. And then you need to have a special case to appeal to.

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