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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Yes, oldest participated four years. I kept her in because I thought the opportunity of working with college coaches was important even after her two teammates stopped. Youngest for three and asked not go anymore she felt it was worth it. BTW, got invited to Thanksgiving a year after she stopped going.

    I don't hate ODP. I just think its time as passed as an important training and recruiting tool. If you think it worth while, then by all means keep going. For you and your family it may be good gig. I just don't believe it is the high level it once was.

    Maybe it because of DA or maybe its because all the ECNL events makes it one more thing to spend money on, maybe folks aren't seeing less big name schools at regional sthen in the past, maybe its the perceived bias of coaches club players getting free passes every year. Who knows.

    I will tell you this, after seeing the bios for my oldest incoming class at her school. She is the only one with ODP listed.
    The biggest issue with ODP is that the teams can't get together and train very often due to the players having their own club teams and game schedules. ODP is not a club team like an ECNL or DA team that practices year round. With girls and boys having access to ECNL or DA with high level training and games, they don't need the ODP. Still always amazed when ODP players get together with no regular team practices how they can come together and make it click on the field. The ODP region teams are not easy to make and the experience of playing foreign club teams and traveling to other countries is worth it.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      The biggest issue with ODP is that the teams can't get together and train very often due to the players having their own club teams and game schedules. ODP is not a club team like an ECNL or DA team that practices year round. With girls and boys having access to ECNL or DA with high level training and games, they don't need the ODP. Still always amazed when ODP players get together with no regular team practices how they can come together and make it click on the field. The ODP region teams are not easy to make and the experience of playing foreign club teams and traveling to other countries is worth it.
      the second biggest problem is the politics... when you have an organization that has coaches from specific clubs who activly rally to get there players into the problem influenicng others in ODP ,you have a broken system .. kids should not be able to bypass tryouts/trials or whatever you want to call them and just get a free pass to Alabama then mysteriously ending up on the "pool list". this has been going on now for years with the current leaders in ODP.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        the second biggest problem is the politics... when you have an organization that has coaches from specific clubs who activly rally to get there players into the problem influenicng others in ODP ,you have a broken system .. kids should not be able to bypass tryouts/trials or whatever you want to call them and just get a free pass to Alabama then mysteriously ending up on the "pool list". this has been going on now for years with the current leaders in ODP.
        They have been known to let hurt players or seasoned players who miss with a good reason stay in the pool without participating in the Alabama camp. This is a touchy issue with other players in the region paying good money and time to attend the camp but life and politics happen.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          They have been known to let hurt players or seasoned players who miss with a good reason stay in the pool without participating in the Alabama camp. This is a touchy issue with other players in the region paying good money and time to attend the camp but life and politics happen.
          Bingo. Touchy is a nice way of putting.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            the second biggest problem is the politics... when you have an organization that has coaches from specific clubs who activly rally to get there players into the problem influenicng others in ODP ,you have a broken system .. kids should not be able to bypass tryouts/trials or whatever you want to call them and just get a free pass to Alabama then mysteriously ending up on the "pool list". this has been going on now for years with the current leaders in ODP.
            How are players IDENTIFIED for POOL TRAINING and TRAINING CENTERS?
            Open trials - Open trials are used for newer players who have been seen minimally. Players can only attend one site in any trial region.
            Scouted - Players can be evaluated in FYSA events such as State Cup, Region Cup and the FYSA Premier League as well as showcases and US Youth Soccer events. They will be invited to the next pool training if chosen.
            Club recommendation - Players may be recommended by their clubs for evaluation and identification to the state pool. Recommendations should be made in the fall to allow for follow up evaluations.
            Previous year's state team - A player from the previous year's state team will automatically be put in the pool for the upcoming year (this does not guarantee a spot on the team).

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              ODP is a JOKE!!

              Save your money for college

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                They have been known to let hurt players or seasoned players who miss with a good reason stay in the pool without participating in the Alabama camp. This is a touchy issue with other players in the region paying good money and time to attend the camp but life and politics happen.
                true. but also known to have accepted checks from wealthy parents as donations to ODP thus letting there kids make these teams. that is a fact!! especially the 03s.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  true. but also known to have accepted checks from wealthy parents as donations to ODP thus letting there kids make these teams. that is a fact!! especially the 03s.
                  Would never believe that and who might those checks be written out to? Without a name for proof? Does it make you feel better to make something up in your mind for why your kid was not selected?

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Would never believe that and who might those checks be written out to? Without a name for proof? Does it make you feel better to make something up in your mind for why your kid was not selected?
                    really?? your gonna say that is not true?? check your 03/02 roster for Alabama. tell me about the girl who never went to one single ODP session this year,has never done ODP in the past ,but is heading to Alabama as a memeber of the state team because dad wrote a "donation" to ODP ...lets stop the nonsense. everyone knows this has been going on for years!!!

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      really?? your gonna say that is not true?? check your 03/02 roster for Alabama. tell me about the girl who never went to one single ODP session this year,has never done ODP in the past ,but is heading to Alabama as a memeber of the state team because dad wrote a "donation" to ODP ...lets stop the nonsense. everyone knows this has been going on for years!!!
                      Well, if there was a roster posted, one could see who you are referring to

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Well, if there was a roster posted, one could see who you are referring to
                        Hmmmm. Why no roster? There are ghost kids on it! They don’t put rosters up because they know people have been keeping track of these mystery kids who end up in Alabama.

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                          yep

                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Hmmmm. Why no roster? There are ghost kids on it! They don’t put rosters up because they know people have been keeping track of these mystery kids who end up in Alabama.

                          The last lists that were published were over a year ago. I know one kid that made the Alabama team. The kid is big but he cant run. About 40% of the players on any given soccer field are faster than this guy. Has no particular technical skills. I can only imagine it is who you know. The kid in question was from our area so we had played against his team every now and then. Crazy!

                          If ODP wants to be relevant and complete their mission they really do need to find the talented players that simply aren't in a situation where they can play on an DA team. I mean you pretty much have to live in a big city to even have a chance at one of those teams.

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                            hmmm why no updates on the 03/02 girls in Alabama/. i saw 2 updates a day on social media with the 05/06.

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                              College showcase July 26/27 weekend and they are charging $125.00, then ODP Pool training August 3-4 for $35.00, what is ODP doing? Does anyone know what exactly and who they are targeting at this point. Lists were never posted and no transparency coming from this group, just very last minute trainings and such for the ones that did not make Alabama camp.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                College showcase July 26/27 weekend and they are charging $125.00, then ODP Pool training August 3-4 for $35.00, what is ODP doing? Does anyone know what exactly and who they are targeting at this point. Lists were never posted and no transparency coming from this group, just very last minute trainings and such for the ones that did not make Alabama camp.
                                The program is dwindling. They are doing these last minute thing for a quick $$$$. .. they now feed off B and C parents that don’t know any better and think little Susie is gonna play on the national team! So pathetic Florida ODP ... I’m told the Alabama camp for the older kids is a disaster.

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