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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Welcome to America a collegiate landscape drive by American Football. Which begs the real question why are athletics even tied to academics? The world over this isn't the case. Jus sayin.

    Women's program's in the states were never destroyed or taken away, they didn't have a platform yet, now they do. Maybe you want to revisit slavery and how that was a shame too?

    I guess payback is a bitch, in your stra book.

    Got it, pure genius.
    Talk about extremist logic. Thanks for the laugh ‘ol timer. The fact that it took 126 years to get a law in place to get women the opportunity to compete just kills you.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Talk about extremist logic. Thanks for the laugh ‘ol timer. The fact that it took 126 years to get a law in place to get women the opportunity to compete just kills you.
      Not part of your discussion, I like the questuon that keeps getting adked of you. But for some reason you duck. Why are atheltics and academics married at the collegiate level in the states?

      I think it's purely a business endeavor due to the baskerball and football revenues.

      Just a sidenote it's discouraging that men's teams getting getting axed due to title ix.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Not part of your discussion, I like the questuon that keeps getting adked of you. But for some reason you duck. Why are atheltics and academics married at the collegiate level in the states?

        I think it's purely a business endeavor due to the baskerball and football revenues.

        Just a sidenote it's discouraging that men's teams getting getting axed due to title ix.
        Might be discouraging but doesn't have to happen. Colleges could give fewer scholarships to mens football and move those to the women's side. Voila! No programs gettings axed.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Might be discouraging but doesn't have to happen. Colleges could give fewer scholarships to mens football and move those to the women's side. Voila! No programs gettings axed.
          If they cut back on American Football scholarships, guess what colleges would move to only offering intramural sports. The end result would be no scholarships for any male sports and women’s sports would have little participation since their is no entitlement scholarship aid handed out.

          Professional clubs in NFL, NBA & MLB would just have farm teams instead of the college feeder.setup. No more one and done, no more early entry NFL or underclass draft for MLB.

          Timbers, Hops & Winterhawks have the model up and running with no title IX issues and they are content.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Schools have to make decisions to balance the opportunities. They could have ADDED another women's sport but, instead, decided to eliminate a men's sport. Not a Title IX problem, it's school problem.
            Didn’t even know University of N Mexico had men’s soccer. Soccer is mostly a women’s and girl’s sport here in the USA. If a boy is worried about getting a scholarship or going to a sport that won’t get cut, try picking a more popular sport like football.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Didn’t even know University of N Mexico had men’s soccer. Soccer is mostly a women’s and girl’s sport here in the USA. If a boy is worried about getting a scholarship or going to a sport that won’t get cut, try picking a more popular sport like football.

              If a sport's popularity was really a factor then all women's sports would be cut today. Jus sayin.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Might be discouraging but doesn't have to happen. Colleges could give fewer scholarships to mens football and move those to the women's side. Voila! No programs gettings axed.
                I read of at least one school doing that, but can't remember which. It is a way to help, but probably would work better for smaller schools or lower level programs. The big guys need to keep attracting the top talent to keep the wins and revenues from TV, alumni donations, swag.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Didn’t even know University of N Mexico had men’s soccer. Soccer is mostly a women’s and girl’s sport here in the USA. If a boy is worried about getting a scholarship or going to a sport that won’t get cut, try picking a more popular sport like football.
                  There's very little $ in men's soccer. 9.9 scholarships vs 14 for women (assuming it's fully funded) to divide across a roster. Then add in the number of international players at many programs. They are given nice packages to attract them here vs their nearly free home country universities. There's also 100 fewer D1 men's programs.

                  As far as the risk of getting cut - that's more about appropriately targeting programs for your skill set. A lot of players over-shoot because they strongly desire the school or program, but aren't realistic about the likelihood of playing. Some are also unprepared for the demands of college sports. Others burn out or want to focus more on other things. The odds of playing all four years isn't great. That's all fine, but it's also why students need to ask themselves if they'd still be happy at the school without their sport.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Didn’t even know University of N Mexico had men’s soccer. Soccer is mostly a women’s and girl’s sport here in the USA. If a boy is worried about getting a scholarship or going to a sport that won’t get cut, try picking a more popular sport like football.
                    What a bizaree post, time to drop some knowledge on your pin head.

                    The elite male youth soccer players join fully funded MLS academies and the top shelf never even think of playing ar the d1 soccer level, it’s too low a standard to ready them for the pros. The women’s game unpopularity and lack of any real opportunity to become a pro make
                    going to college the only option.

                    Yes the athletic bar is set very low in order to get athletic aid for girls soccerdue to title IX interpts and and far more aid than qualified players available to fill out rosters.

                    Jus so you know over 100K more boys play HS Soccer than girls, which blows up the idea of a more popular sport.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Didn’t even know University of N Mexico had men’s soccer. Soccer is mostly a women’s and girl’s sport here in the USA. If a boy is worried about getting a scholarship or going to a sport that won’t get cut, try picking a more popular sport like football.
                      This could be a good strategy since there are thousands more scholarships for football than there are for men’s soccer. Wish our top male athletes would pick soccer but it’s understandable why they don’t.

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                        #26
                        There are 128 more Women's D1 programs vs men's, with almost 6000 men playing vs 9400 women. Of those men. 16% are foreign, dropping it down to slightly over 5000 men's D1 spots. D2 has even more internationals playing (20%). International players aren't as big a factor on the women's side. That is growing but with so many more women's programs there's more room for it.

                        Men / Women

                        Number of US High School Soccer Players 2016- 17 450,234 388,339
                        Number of College Soccer Players (see table below) 39,888 38,873
                        % of US HS Soccer Players competing at any College Level 7.9% 9.6%
                        % of US HS Soccer Players Competing at NCAA I Schools 1.1% 2.3%

                        http://scholarshipstats.com/soccer.html

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          There are 128 more Women's D1 programs vs men's, with almost 6000 men playing vs 9400 women. Of those men. 16% are foreign, dropping it down to slightly over 5000 men's D1 spots. D2 has even more internationals playing (20%). International players aren't as big a factor on the women's side. That is growing but with so many more women's programs there's more room for it.

                          Men / Women

                          Number of US High School Soccer Players 2016- 17 450,234 388,339 % of US HS Soccer Players competing at any College Level 7.9% 9.6%
                          % of US HS Soccer Players Competing at NCAA I Schools 1.1% 2.3%


                          http://scholarshipstats.com/soccer.html
                          Title IX at work, tipping the scales to women's entitlement through athletic aid in this sport (Soccer).

                          Too bad you didn't detail the fiscal payouts of 14 full rides at 335 D1 schools.

                          Less interest in the sport than males, less participation--yet millions more in athletic aid. Stunning stuff. Thanks for sharing so somewhat recent data.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Title IX at work, tipping the scales to women's entitlement through athletic aid in this sport (Soccer).

                            Too bad you didn't detail the fiscal payouts of 14 full rides at 335 D1 schools.

                            Less interest in the sport than males, less participation--yet millions more in athletic aid. Stunning stuff. Thanks for sharing so somewhat recent data.
                            So the 75 neanderthals bashing their brains in on a football field should get all the scholarship money? I dont even have a daughter but believe women should be given equal opportunities. If you wanted your son to get college you should have pushed him to football.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              So the 75 neanderthals bashing their brains in on a football field should get all the scholarship money? I dont even have a daughter but believe women should be given equal opportunities. If you wanted your son to get college you should have pushed him to football.
                              The poor troll is sad his son isn’t good enough to get a scholarship without taking ones away from a bunch of girls. Sad.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Not part of your discussion, I like the questuon that keeps getting adked of you. But for some reason you duck. Why are atheltics and academics married at the collegiate level in the states?

                                I think it's purely a business endeavor due to the baskerball and football revenues.

                                Just a sidenote it's discouraging that men's teams getting getting axed due to title ix.
                                Think about it. Go to college, get an education. Prior to Title IX, want to participate in sports, gotta be a guy. Equitable treatment meaning opportunity.

                                Didn’t duck a question. It was only asked once after my post. Men’s programs get axed if the school decides to for budget reasons or if the school is non-compliant with the law.

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