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    #61
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Try and stay focused.
    The development of " foot skills" or any skill involving physical and mental coordination does not have to be before age 12.This is a myth sold to many the modern parent.
    But we do live in reality here where there are only so many hours in a day and so many hours on a soccer field and only so many hours for school and homework. (Let's not mention that a kid might even want some social time.) Sure, you can continue to learn those foot skills at any age but after 12 formal soccer training often shifts from ball skill to team and tactical play.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      So time spent on a certain skill set has no bearing on the quality of that skill set- is that your position
      Hate to tell you this but you just dont wake up and have it all down
      Ask any top player(crosby, curry, jeter, brady) they have been working on their skills since early childhood and still do some of the same drills now
      Why are you putting words in my mouth ?
      That is not what I said.
      Great if others have done it , however there are also many athletes that started later. That indicates that is not a fact . It just worked out for them. How many start at a young age and fail ?
      The opinion that if you don't have " foot skills" by age 12 , you will wash out is just nonsense.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        But we do live in reality here where there are only so many hours in a day and so many hours on a soccer field and only so many hours for school and homework. (Let's not mention that a kid might even want some social time.) Sure, you can continue to learn those foot skills at any age but after 12 formal soccer training often shifts from ball skill to team and tactical play.
        The reason why is that parents have been sold on it.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          I will take a solid player everytime- over a one trick pony
          I can defend your speed or your strength ,the kid with a mind who can do all things is scary
          you assume that a player with an elite skill set cannot learn to do anything else. All this is semantics based on your definition of solid and mine of elite. Its also a function of the team around said players.

          Its not worth arguing, but an elite skill is very rare. Much rarer than solid play. Every great player does something at an elite level.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            The reason why is that parents have been sold on it.
            Locking kids into club soccer at 8 is becoming the norm

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              #66
              Parents are smart getting in with the clubs that in the long run will benefit their child. The DA is clearly for the individual as the teams will be changing on a yearly basis so no chemistry and the girls that are almost 2 years younger will struggle with the age difference and won't show well.
              Ecnl there is no comparison regarding college placement between FSA and CFC.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                14 scholarships would be plenty to build a top program if they ave 10 full rides and 4 50% and got the right 18 ..... they NEVER do .... not even the top programs. They give tons of partials to try to a lot for their numerous misses each year when assessing the soccer abilities of their prospects. Some coaches do far better than others year in and year out.
                You won't run much of a successful program with just 18 players. Can't even work full side in training. Got to have a few more and those would be walk-on players by your approach. How much ability do you want to give up to have more training bodies. That's why there are lots of quarter and thirds scholarships. Keeps the better players around longer.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  You won't run much of a successful program with just 18 players. Can't even work full side in training. Got to have a few more and those would be walk-on players by your approach. How much ability do you want to give up to have more training bodies. That's why there are lots of quarter and thirds scholarships. Keeps the better players around longer.
                  Studs may get 60-75%, a full ride is rare but happens; many get 30-50%; lower level practice players 25% or less - at a fully funded program. Kind of like a bell curve. If a coach has less to work with (as certainly happens on the men's side) then that math changes a great deal.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Parents are smart getting in with the clubs that in the long run will benefit their child. The DA is clearly for the individual as the teams will be changing on a yearly basis so no chemistry and the girls that are almost 2 years younger will struggle with the age difference and won't show well.
                    Ecnl there is no comparison regarding college placement between FSA and CFC.
                    Good players show well. All this team chemistry nonsense makes me laugh.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Players continue to develop through college. True foot skills are most definitely developed by 12 years old. There are lots of other attributes which are learned during the HS years. Learning to control the ball out of air on a simple touch, heading, shielding, first touch away from pressure. Learning how to deal with physically superior/stronger players.

                      My daughter is a junior and is ticketed for lower level D1. Her game has evolved immensely over the past 24 months. She always had a strong skillset but need to learn to deal with fast physical play, make quick decisions, step up her physicality and so on. All of this was developed during club play at U15 and U16 and to a lesser extent HS soccer.

                      College coaches look to find kids that they think can succeed at the next level. All of the things that I mentioned above are a factor.
                      The truth is best Female players can be identified at 12. Just about all the current D1 seniors playing now were on the same ODP team at 12.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Good players show well. All this team chemistry nonsense makes me laugh.
                        Bottom line, the girls that get "recruited" can play and do show well. No amount of parent politicking or glowing recommendations from a coach will cement deal. They can help get the kid on radar screens, but when it is all said and done kid has to be able to prove they can play at that colleges level. Then factor in grades and if kid is a good kid then have complete puzzle.

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          The truth is best Female players can be identified at 12. Just about all the current D1 seniors playing now were on the same ODP team at 12.
                          Wow, nothing says talent like CT ODP .... even 6 years ago it was garbage and far more ODP players were bad than good. Anyone that tried out made it. Being on ODP 6 years ago was not a sign of great things to come ..... please provide the full list so we can laugh at it.

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                            #73
                            Seriously...ODP is awful.

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Wow, nothing says talent like CT ODP .... even 6 years ago it was garbage and far more ODP players were bad than good. Anyone that tried out made it. Being on ODP 6 years ago was not a sign of great things to come ..... please provide the full list so we can laugh at it.
                              They are 22 so that that would be ten years ago

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