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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Merchandising, kickbacks from vendors and suppliers ..
    That’s it? Name me a sport that doesn’t require new uniform kits and sell swag at tournaments.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      That's true. Too much travel and development and participation levels suffer. Youth Soccer is too much of a business. ECNL is the poster child for the greed.
      please, so is gda. pick your poison and stop the ******* contests over whose league is better. the only way it gets better is if parents stop writing checks en masse. that isn't going to happen any time soon

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        #33
        Youth sports in general have become a profession for club owners, as a result you have the compitition of leagues i.e. DA, ENCL ect , which has caused the dilution of talent across leagues .

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          #34
          ECNL has gone the way of NEP and Maple before it. Short term greed of adding new players and sign ups has diluted the product. It's greatest strengths are gone, being the DA for girls, exclusivity etc...and the travel and cost is now silly for the quality of the league that is in place today.


          Too bad too. It was a great league.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            That’s it? Name me a sport that doesn’t require new uniform kits and sell swag at tournaments.
            you asked where the money is made. you were told.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              you asked where the money is made. you were told.
              That’s fine, but how much could you possibly pull in via merchandise?

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                ECNL has gone the way of NEP and Maple before it. Short term greed of adding new players and sign ups has diluted the product. It's greatest strengths are gone, being the DA for girls, exclusivity etc...and the travel and cost is now silly for the quality of the league that is in place today.


                Too bad too. It was a great league.
                It turned high level youth girls soccer into a luxury status product and USSF is now fully on board with that as well. Why is that great?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  That’s fine, but how much could you possibly pull in via merchandise?
                  Quite a bit because these are bulk purchasing agreements with vendors.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    It turned high level youth girls soccer into a luxury status product and USSF is now fully on board with that as well. Why is that great?
                    It is a a free market. Youth sports look the way the customers want it to look. The high income customers want to buy a different product then the lower income customers. It is just business.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      It is a a free market. Youth sports look the way the customers want it to look. The high income customers want to buy a different product then the lower income customers. It is just business.
                      Parents want to be able to pay for access. Clubs are only too willing to accommodate. Quality is an afterthought to $$$. There are so many kids playing "elite" level soccer who cannot do the basics consistently, simply because no coaches have any incentive to tell them otherwise.

                      clubs have sold out.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        It turned high level youth girls soccer into a luxury status product and USSF is now fully on board with that as well. Why is that great?
                        It was a good league for exposure, obviously with some flaws. Helped a lot of kids get to where they wanted to go. Moving forward though considering all the changes with the girls landscape, the weak new clubs added with the dilution and relative to the costs, probably not so much.

                        I do agree with you on what you said too.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Parents want to be able to pay for access. Clubs are only too willing to accommodate. Quality is an afterthought to $$$. There are so many kids playing "elite" level soccer who cannot do the basics consistently, simply because no coaches have any incentive to tell them otherwise.

                          clubs have sold out.
                          I think it just a status symbol like others. The players have to have enough talent and money to make the team. As more and more teams and leagues crop up the status symbol is available to more and more customers and the status bestowed decreases.

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                            #43
                            How is this different from GDA? We pay a small fortune to trounce teams 11-1. There is no objectivity here. My daughter is on GDA because that’s the club we picked. It is less inconvenient for us than Stars, the coaching is good, and she is happy. But if you think GDA is either less expensive than other leagues or strong across the board, you are wrong. To be perfectly honest, our best competition happened when she was in ECNL for a year, but I’m sure that’s diluted now too. All of the threads are designed to make one choice look great and the others look terrible. Instead we end up looking terrible.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              How is this different from GDA? We pay a small fortune to trounce teams 11-1. There is no objectivity here. My daughter is on GDA because that’s the club we picked. It is less inconvenient for us than Stars, the coaching is good, and she is happy. But if you think GDA is either less expensive than other leagues or strong across the board, you are wrong. To be perfectly honest, our best competition happened when she was in ECNL for a year, but I’m sure that’s diluted now too. All of the threads are designed to make one choice look great and the others look terrible. Instead we end up looking terrible.
                              In the NE, the leagues are not really different and everyone knows it. No idea about other regions but even if one or the other was a clear winner elsewhere, that is useless to my player. Half of these threads must be started by individuals employed by one club or the other.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                It is a a free market. Youth sports look the way the customers want it to look. The high income customers want to buy a different product then the lower income customers. It is just business.
                                It is just business but good business decisions doesn't equat to quality level of play. When there were fewer choices there was less dilution of talent. Now the motivation of the clubs is to fill rosters and maximize income because it is nolonger a side job for the club principles it has become their careers

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