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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    This is a big problem in track and field at the present time, but soon to show up in any girls sport. There were males, not even transgender males, playing field hockey and dominating the sport not so long ago. But a biological man, CeCe Telfer, just sets a record in NCAA Women’s Track and is now headed for the March Championships. I feel for these people who suffer from gender dysphoria, but this is not fair to biological female athletes. It makes no sense to me. Doping is illegal and yet transgenders have to "dope" to transition and are then allowed to compete.
    What I don't understand is why more women aren't complaining.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Then who are they sending around Europe and to NY to compete? Is that some type of fake La Masia team?
      They aren't sending them around Europe week to week, that's for sure.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        They aren't sending them around Europe week to week, that's for sure.
        Ok but isn't that the same model in DA? More training, less but more meaningful games?

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          #20
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          What I don't understand is why more women aren't complaining.
          People have bigger issues to deal. Sorry you have one of the few kids in the state that is suffering from having to compete against a transgender child but it just is directly affecting a tiny few. Try to look at it as a challenge to help your kid improve and be grateful you dont have bigger problems to face.

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            #21
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            What I don't understand is why more women aren't complaining.
            Because they don't want to end up like Martina Navratilova who expressed her opinion on the subject and then immediately got booted off the advisory board of a gay advocacy group for doing so. Or end up like Megan Murphy a Canadian feminist who was permanently banned from Twitter for tweeting “Men aren’t women” and “How are transwomen not men?” You can't deviate from the liberal orthodoxy without expecting to be punished. People fear being labeled as transphobic so they don't speak out.

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              #22
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              People have bigger issues to deal. Sorry you have one of the few kids in the state that is suffering from having to compete against a transgender child but it just is directly affecting a tiny few. Try to look at it as a challenge to help your kid improve and be grateful you dont have bigger problems to face.
              Ya, tell that to the women who will be running against a male in the NCAA National Championship next month.

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                #23
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Ya, tell that to the women who will be running against a male in the NCAA National Championship next month.
                i said i feel for her but it does not affect many people and no has time to battle every injustice. sorry

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                  #24
                  It will indeed become a bigger issue at some time. As soon as biological females start to lose scholarships and opportunities because of it, then action will be taken. I listened to a radio DJ talk about it this morning. He was referring to HS only, but his resolution was simple. One team per sport. Combine men and women. At first I thought it was stupid, but man some of it made sense in the end. We are in an age where woman want to be treated equally. And this doesn’t treat them equally but they don’t speak up about it. Because it doesn’t effect enough of them. So they don’t care. Or don’t want to end up like Martina. No winning works good for individual sports. But it won’t work for team sports. The interviews I’ve seen the person says they just want to compete. Go ahead. Compete. But you and I now that eventually one of those participants is gonna say they should be rewarded or that they aren’t being duly recognized as a female. We are such a nation of cupcakes that we’ll fold.

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                    #25
                    Males have 15-25% more lung capacity then do women due to larger rib cage that allows for lung expansion.

                    Males have larger hearts.

                    Males have broader shoulders and narrower hips.

                    Males have denser muscles and more fast twitch fibers.

                    Males have denser bones

                    Females have a wider Q-angle. That’s the hip to knee ratio (that is also why females are more susceptible to ACL injuries).

                    Even with the hormonal use of testosterone, human growth hormones and steroids female biology is still inferior to a male’s when it comes to the Q-angle, hip-shoulder ratio, muscle density, bone density heart and lung volume.

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                      #26
                      It will be an issue if it ever hits a big money women's sport like golf or tennis or the Olympics. If that never happens, it may never get much attention.

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                        #27
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        i said i feel for her but it does not affect many people and no has time to battle every injustice. sorry
                        Sorry for her? No, sorry for them. It affects all the women who have competed against her/him.

                        CeCe Telfer led Franklin Pierce’s women’s track team into the top 25 rankings for the first time in program’s history ending their season ranked 14th in DII. S/he won three Northeast-10 Conference titles, qualified for three different events at March’s NCAA championships and was given Most Outstanding Track Athlete honors at the NE10 Championships. All titles some woman now misses out on.

                        Do any of the women who will compete against him/her have a chance when the time differentials are so different? Telfer is one of the fastest runners in NCAA women’s track and field at any division — not just at the DII level. Telfer’s best time in the 55 meter dash is tied with the third-fastest runner at the women’s DI level and at that level you are talking Olympic level female runners. And here's the real kicker, Telfer competed on Franklin Pierce’s men’s team as recently as January 2018.

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                          #28
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Males have 15-25% more lung capacity then do women due to larger rib cage that allows for lung expansion.

                          Males have larger hearts.

                          Males have broader shoulders and narrower hips.

                          Males have denser muscles and more fast twitch fibers.

                          Males have denser bones

                          Females have a wider Q-angle. That’s the hip to knee ratio (that is also why females are more susceptible to ACL injuries).

                          Even with the hormonal use of testosterone, human growth hormones and steroids female biology is still inferior to a male’s when it comes to the Q-angle, hip-shoulder ratio, muscle density, bone density heart and lung volume.
                          Sorry but you are using "old" science you need to use the new science. Like the global warming science. Soon you will see every scientist explain why women are stronger than men. There will be bills put forward in congress that makes debate about women not being stronger illegal. There will be movies predicting women winning all sports competitions in 20 years and when it doesn't happen they will then call it something else like gender change.

                          Oh and people will make a lot of money off of it and increased political power.

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                            #29
                            Originally posted by unregistered View Post
                            sorry but you are using "old" science you need to use the new science. Like the global warming science. Soon you will see every scientist explain why women are stronger than men. There will be bills put forward in congress that makes debate about women not being stronger illegal. There will be movies predicting women winning all sports competitions in 20 years and when it doesn't happen they will then call it something else like gender change.

                            Oh and people will make a lot of money off of it and increased political power.
                            trump 2020!

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                              #30
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              i said i feel for her but it does not affect many people and no has time to battle every injustice. sorry
                              More women are affected than apparently you realize.

                              One of the top scorers for Australia’s women’s handball team is Hannah Mouncey, who played for the Australian men’s handball team before transitioning.

                              Rachel McKinnon, a biologically male who has transitioned won the women’s sprint at the 2018 UCI Masters Track Cycling World Championships last fall.

                              Caster Semenya has been winning gold in Junior World Championships, World Championships and the Olympics since 2008. And btw if Caster, a cryptorchid, was a racehorse she'd be running with the males not the females.

                              Fallon Fox has only loss one professional mixed martial arts fight and that fight ended in controversy.

                              Weightlifter Laurel Hubbard, who was born a man, won the Australian international women’s competition lifting 20 pounds more than the woman who won the silver.

                              Transgender cyclist Jillian Bearden, who had previously competed as a male, won the women’s division of the El Tour de Tucson.

                              Mack Beggs, 17, born female, but transitioning and undergoing testosterone treatments for more than a year took first place in the University Interscholastic League state girls’ championship.

                              Transgender football player Christina Ginther, born a male and is six feet tall plays women's semi pro football.

                              Tia Thompson, born a male, played with the men’s division of USA Volleyball until given permission in January to play in the women’s division and hopes to make the women's Summer Olympics team in 2020.

                              Chloe Psyche Anderson, 6'1", born a male, joined the U.C. Santa Cruz women’s volleyball team in 2016.

                              Gabrielle Ludwig, born Robert, joined the women’s basketball team at Mission College in Santa Clara, California. Ludwig is 6 feet, 6 inches tall and weighs 220 pounds.

                              Pro-golfer Mianne Bagger, born a male, became the first transgender woman to play in professional golf.

                              And let's not forget Bruce Jenner won Woman of the Year.

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