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    #76
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    And here's the cold hard truth:
    1. Families sacrifice the good education to pursue a D1 scholarship
    2. Most scholarships are not fully funded
    3. If you play D1, there is no passion beyond soccer

    In summary, in 99% of the cases, it's not about the education and passion beyond soccer.


    Ok....we see you can call names...now how about disputing any of the above.
    As a parent of a D1 player, I can unequivocally state:

    1. Absolutely not true. My D was more focused on getting good grades than most of her non-athletic peers. She choose her school based on ranking specific to her major and not the overall rankings that people like you view as the end-all be-all (however, her school is quite highly ranked in those metrics as well). Countless studies have shown that athletic females have greater career success and are significantly less likely to abuse drugs and alcohol. These are not hard to find, and since you have some internet skills, you can easily find them yourself.
    2. True. Women's soccer at my D's school is not fully funded, but she gets 75% athletic and 17% academic. The 8% plus personal expenses we pay per year ensures she will not be burdened with student loan debt for the next 20 years.
    3. If your child cannot have any interests or passions outside of a 4 year playing commitment, there are issues there that run very deep into her pysche that you as a parent should have noticed long before she got engaged in the D1 athletic pursuit. It would not matter what that child pursues, those issues would persist, just in different forms.

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      #77
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      As a parent of a D1 player, I can unequivocally state:

      1. Absolutely not true. My D was more focused on getting good grades than most of her non-athletic peers. She choose her school based on ranking specific to her major and not the overall rankings that people like you view as the end-all be-all (however, her school is quite highly ranked in those metrics as well). Countless studies have shown that athletic females have greater career success and are significantly less likely to abuse drugs and alcohol. These are not hard to find, and since you have some internet skills, you can easily find them yourself.
      2. True. Women's soccer at my D's school is not fully funded, but she gets 75% athletic and 17% academic. The 8% plus personal expenses we pay per year ensures she will not be burdened with student loan debt for the next 20 years.
      3. If your child cannot have any interests or passions outside of a 4 year playing commitment, there are issues there that run very deep into her pysche that you as a parent should have noticed long before she got engaged in the D1 athletic pursuit. It would not matter what that child pursues, those issues would persist, just in different forms.

      1. Good for your kid. Now take a look at the list of schools many kids attend and talk with the parents(e.g. Central CT, Sacred Heart, U of H, URI, College of Charleston, even Providence and UCONN.) and you quickly see that academics are not the 1st choice. Don't get me wrong, this happens at the D3 level too.

      2. I was being a bit tongue and cheek about #3. That said, soccer is a full time commitment. In most cases kids cannot do a semester abroad, or pursue certain majors. And that's a fact, whether it be Lafayette, HC, Dartmouth or Fordham. So yes, D1 DOES limit the kids pursuit of their passions.

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        #78
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        1. Good for your kid. Now take a look at the list of schools many kids attend and talk with the parents(e.g. Central CT, Sacred Heart, U of H, URI, College of Charleston, even Providence and UCONN.) and you quickly see that academics are not the 1st choice. Don't get me wrong, this happens at the D3 level too.

        2. I was being a bit tongue and cheek about #3. That said, soccer is a full time commitment. In most cases kids cannot do a semester abroad, or pursue certain majors. And that's a fact, whether it be Lafayette, HC, Dartmouth or Fordham. So yes, D1 DOES limit the kids pursuit of their passions.
        How many years have you been making this same argument to cover up for the simple fact that your son was not a very good soccer player and basically had no other options but to choose a D3 school in order to fulfill both of your unrequited passion for soccer? You have literally poisoned every single D1 thread on this site for more than decade and now have graduated up to those discussing the pro level. Are you really that insanely jealous? You can look down at the lives of the D1 scholarship athletes and the schools they choose all you like but the simple fact is that your son took time away from his academic pursuits to play soccer at the D3 level speaks to soccer being a heck of a lot more important in your equation than most sane parents in your situation would have allowed.

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          #79
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          1. Good for your kid. Now take a look at the list of schools many kids attend and talk with the parents(e.g. Central CT, Sacred Heart, U of H, URI, College of Charleston, even Providence and UCONN.) and you quickly see that academics are not the 1st choice. Don't get me wrong, this happens at the D3 level too.

          2. I was being a bit tongue and cheek about #3. That said, soccer is a full time commitment. In most cases kids cannot do a semester abroad, or pursue certain majors. And that's a fact, whether it be Lafayette, HC, Dartmouth or Fordham. So yes, D1 DOES limit the kids pursuit of their passions.
          #2 can be easily rectified in grad school. If I had $1 for everyone I encounter who's job is totally different than their undergrad major, I wouldn't be posting on this site.

          As for #1, making judgments on individual's college selections, whether athletic related or not, is not something I adhere to and never will. Perhaps I am simply not that pretentious.

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            #80
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            So then they save there. The good news is the league decided to raise the bottom salary from $9k to $15k.
            If you knew anything you would know that that minimum wage player in the NSWL is going over to Europe and getting 3-4x that. It's actually one of the reasons why the bottom salary was increased. If they don't get rid of deadbeat owners like the Breakers they will never be able to compete with the European clubs and that will be the biggest shame of all.

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              #81
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              If you knew anything you would know that that minimum wage player in the NSWL is going over to Europe and getting 3-4x that. It's actually one of the reasons why the bottom salary was increased. If they don't get rid of deadbeat owners like the Breakers they will never be able to compete with the European clubs and that will be the biggest shame of all.
              It might be a shame, but perhaps it's better for all concerned. We simply don't know what we are doing here, top to bottom, with few exceptions.

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                #82
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Just wanted to confirm, this thread is no longer about the Boston Breakers?
                Correct.

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  How many years have you been making this same argument to cover up for the simple fact that your son was not a very good soccer player and basically had no other options but to choose a D3 school in order to fulfill both of your unrequited passion for soccer? You have literally poisoned every single D1 thread on this site for more than decade and now have graduated up to those discussing the pro level. Are you really that insanely jealous? You can look down at the lives of the D1 scholarship athletes and the schools they choose all you like but the simple fact is that your son took time away from his academic pursuits to play soccer at the D3 level speaks to soccer being a heck of a lot more important in your equation than most sane parents in your situation would have allowed.
                  Lol. That guy passed on some greatest universities in the country just so he can tell everyone his kid suited for some second or third tier D3 school. If it really was all about the education like he has incessantly claimed you would have thunk his kid would have shelved soccer and picked THE highest rated school he could get into. But no, that’s not what they did. The laughably insane part is his kid is now going to med school just when everyone is bailing on medicine because the economics don’t work because of Obama Care and he wants to tell everyone that being a pro soccer is a bad career choice. Talk about a f**ked up individual.

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                    #84
                    Insane? What's insane is making fun of any kid intelligent and committed enough to become a doctor.

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Lol. That guy passed on some greatest universities in the country just so he can tell everyone his kid suited for some second or third tier D3 school. If it really was all about the education like he has incessantly claimed you would have thunk his kid would have shelved soccer and picked THE highest rated school he could get into. But no, that’s not what they did. The laughably insane part is his kid is now going to med school just when everyone is bailing on medicine because the economics don’t work because of Obama Care and he wants to tell everyone that being a pro soccer is a bad career choice. Talk about a f**ked up individual.
                      Are you referring to P-man?

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Insane? What's insane is making fun of any kid intelligent and committed enough to become a doctor.
                        More insane than spending more than a decade making fun of kids who are talented and committed enough to first earn a D1 scholarship then turn pro?

                        Bottom line with medicine these days is the smart kids aren't going to medical school, they are going to nursing school to become either a NP or PA. The educational cost is a fraction of med school and they start earning earlier. More work out there, with less liability also.

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          More insane than spending more than a decade making fun of kids who are talented and committed enough to first earn a D1 scholarship then turn pro?

                          Bottom line with medicine these days is the smart kids aren't going to medical school, they are going to nursing school to become either a NP or PA. The educational cost is a fraction of med school and they start earning earlier. More work out there, with less liability also.
                          Well that sounds great unless of course the kid wants to be an md.

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                            #88
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Well that sounds great unless of course the kid wants to be an md.
                            Interesting how when someone's kid wants to be a D1 scholarship athlete and then be a pro soccer player you crapped all over them but just because your specific kid wants to be an MD that's somehow different. Do you realize just how insane you come across and then to make a stupid statement like above absolutely takes the cake. What a fraud.

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                              #89
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Interesting how when someone's kid wants to be a D1 scholarship athlete and then be a pro soccer player you crapped all over them but just because your specific kid wants to be an MD that's somehow different. Do you realize just how insane you come across and then to make a stupid statement like above absolutely takes the cake. What a fraud.
                              post had zero to do with soccer. Was just responding to your career advice which is fine but there are also many procedures and avenues that are not available to NPs or PAs.

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                                #90
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Interesting how when someone's kid wants to be a D1 scholarship athlete and then be a pro soccer player you crapped all over them but just because your specific kid wants to be an MD that's somehow different. Do you realize just how insane you come across and then to make a stupid statement like above absolutely takes the cake. What a fraud.
                                You do realize that the two are completely different, don't you?
                                Pro soccer= minimum wage
                                MD= many career paths (biotech, private practice, consulting, etc)

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