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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Part III, Paragraph D of DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY RULES & REGULATIONS 2017-18 (Pages 4 & 5)

    5.Academy Players currently registered with an Academy Club have committed to forgo participating in both the Academy and high school soccer. Players who participate in high school soccer are ineligible to participate in Academy practice and competition during that same season. Only players who have been granted a waiver by the League Office will be allowed to remain on their clubs Academy roster during the high school soccer season. This waiver must be received by DA office before September 1, 2017 to be considered for the roster exemption. The waiver eligibility guidelines are as follows:

    Players who receive consideration or financial aid to attend a private high school based on their participation with the soccer team are eligible
    • No specific number of waivers available to a club, but that number is naturally self-limiting to field a full team throughout the Academy season
    • The waiver must include the following points:
    –Addressed to Academy Program from the Principal, Head Master or similar position
    –Player name and high school
    –States the player is expected to participate in high school soccer as part of their enrollment at this school and subsidized education
    –States the term, semester and/or dates in which the player will be participating in high school soccer
    –Signed and dated
    –Sent to Academy Office for approval prior to the start of the high school season
    • With a waiver, the player’s roster slot will not be prorated to not include the high school season as part of their 25% start rate. A waivered player must start 25% of the team’s total games for the season.

    Players registered with a Development Academy club will not be allowed to re-enter the program during the same season after participating in the high school season with their current or a different Academy Club.
    Technically the girls do not need waivers (Hs is grandfathered in until 2021). HOWEVER, they do still need club approval and if approved they cannot do do both at the same time


    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Page 1

    "Academy Season” means the U.S. Soccer Development Academy competition beginning in
    September and concluding in July including the Academy League, Academy Playoffs and Academy Championships
    .
    “Academy Off season" means the time period after Academy Playoffs and Showcase (unless the team is participating in Academy Championships). Players are released from their current Academy obligations at this time (should a player not be with an Academy Championships team).

    “Academy Regular Season" means the U.S. Soccer Development Academy competition featuring games between Academy teams beginning in September and concluding before the Academy Playoffs in June, inclusive of regional and winter Showcases.


    Page 4

    Academy Players currently registered with an Academy Club have committed to forgo participating in both the Academy and high school soccer. Players who participate in
    high school soccer are ineligible to participate in Academy practice and competition during that same season.

    https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/38y02...n6k5t9zonsl97s
    In addition there were two memos, this was one

    Hello,
    Players are only required to step away from the DA while their HS Season is going, which is as soon as they start training for HS. As soon as they finish hs activity they can come back, so they do not have to wait for state championships to wrap up.

    Please let me know if that clarifies this for you.

    Best

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    John Kopko/ Development Academy Club Services Associate
    JKopko@ussoccer.org o: 312.528.7040

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Technically the girls do not need waivers (Hs is grandfathered in until 2021). HOWEVER, they do still need club approval and if approved they cannot do do both at the same time




      In addition there were two memos, this was one

      Hello,
      Players are only required to step away from the DA while their HS Season is going, which is as soon as they start training for HS. As soon as they finish hs activity they can come back, so they do not have to wait for state championships to wrap up.

      Please let me know if that clarifies this for you.

      Best

      cid:image002.png@01D24001.7DFE79E0

      John Kopko/ Development Academy Club Services Associate
      JKopko@ussoccer.org o: 312.528.7040
      I don't know of any high school soccer program that doesn't start training the day after tryouts to get ready for preseason games and the regular season games starting at the end of October. How a coach thinks it is ethically okay to bring on a GDA player in January to begin practices because that player was off doing club soccer is beyond belief. Knew a swim coach who was asked if a player could miss a few swim practices to be part of the drama club and he said if the player is not at the pool after school then she is off the team.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        I don't know of any high school soccer program that doesn't start training the day after tryouts to get ready for preseason games and the regular season games starting at the end of October. How a coach thinks it is ethically okay to bring on a GDA player in January to begin practices because that player was off doing club soccer is beyond belief. Knew a swim coach who was asked if a player could miss a few swim practices to be part of the drama club and he said if the player is not at the pool after school then she is off the team.
        It is up to the coach and AD and I have seen both and as a youth player experienced both, albeit in different sports. Why do you attack a coach for wanting the best players on the field?

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          I don't know of any high school soccer program that doesn't start training the day after tryouts to get ready for preseason games and the regular season games starting at the end of October. How a coach thinks it is ethically okay to bring on a GDA player in January to begin practices because that player was off doing club soccer is beyond belief. Knew a swim coach who was asked if a player could miss a few swim practices to be part of the drama club and he said if the player is not at the pool after school then she is off the team.
          Exactly. In fairness some HS coaches may not know or understand how this all works. Some may not care about it and will do whatever to help win. But I don't know any coach that would say "Oh it's ok that you're not here for 4-6 weeks while the rest of the team busts their azz. Just come when you can." If they do they should be fired.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            It is up to the coach and AD and I have seen both and as a youth player experienced both, albeit in different sports. Why do you attack a coach for wanting the best players on the field?
            It sends a very poor message. All players on a team should be treated equally.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              It is up to the coach and AD and I have seen both and as a youth player experienced both, albeit in different sports. Why do you attack a coach for wanting the best players on the field?
              Say you work your tail off for 6 weeks on a project, then your boss gives it to someone else for a few days and they get all the credit. How would that feel?

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Exactly. In fairness some HS coaches may not know or understand how this all works. Some may not care about it and will do whatever to help win. But I don't know any coach that would say "Oh it's ok that you're not here for 4-6 weeks while the rest of the team busts their azz. Just come when you can." If they do they should be fired.
                So true. Do we really need to bring club politics into high school soccer? Clubs with GDA will rush out to get coaches hired as adjuncts at the closer high schools so the coaches will take on GDA players two months late. Or the coach who has a son playing at another club or in another league could say No Way to any GDA player coming onto his team a two months late. There will be no consistency from school to school and more politics than ever in high school. The powerhouse privates will want to continue winning their xth title and will lower themselves to taking a GDA player late. USSFDA won't concern themselves with this issue because they set their rules and. FHSAA won't concern itself with forming any soccer rules that would be consistent because it could hurt a football player or an injured player trying to come onto a team late. How could FHSAA possibly limit a player from playing a high school sport and doesn't need the lawsuits? So ultimately it comes down the individual school's athletic director and prinipal setting fair and consistent standards for the soccer program at its school. They are the only ones who can be addressed on the high school issue.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Say you work your tail off for 6 weeks on a project, then your boss gives it to someone else for a few days and they get all the credit. How would that feel?
                  Feels fine; some are better at the routine work and some are better at closing the deal. Remember, coffee is for closers!

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    It sends a very poor message. All players on a team should be treated equally.
                    ...but the message is not poor, rather it is the best 11 are placed on the field. Why discriminate against a player who works hard and attempts to play on the best team possible but also wants to contribute to the success of her high school?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      ...but the message is not poor, rather it is the best 11 are placed on the field. Why discriminate against a player who works hard and attempts to play on the best team possible but also wants to contribute to the success of her high school?
                      Like someone said on one of these, now what 4 threads? commitment matters also. Some coaches have rules and ethics that go beyond just winning, others don't.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Feels fine; some are better at the routine work and some are better at closing the deal. Remember, coffee is for closers!
                        You're lying and you know it

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Like someone said on one of these, now what 4 threads? commitment matters also. Some coaches have rules and ethics that go beyond just winning, others don't.
                          Rules, yes, but to say someone is not ethical is placing your personal opinion on the coach. Why do you need to attack the individual? Also, you could say that the commitment of a high school player to make an effort to contribute to both teams is at a higher level.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            You're lying and you know it
                            I will admit that I took the closer line from Glengarry Glen Ross, great play/movie if you like dialogue, but not on the other point. I have been on both sides of the process and it comes down to knowing your strengths and weaknesses in certain matters. Perhaps the players that think they will be displaced by the new additions could tank their season and not make districts so we never have to worry about any late additions to the team.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Like someone said on one of these, now what 4 threads? commitment matters also. Some coaches have rules and ethics that go beyond just winning, others don't.
                              No players wants to play for an unethical, unfair, inconsistent, blah blah blah kind of coach. No athletic director or school will keep around a coach who has a bad reputation with the players and parents. A coach got fired from a high school last night because his team received three red cards. A coach has to know how to teach his players what is right and about commitment and hard work.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                So true. And USSFDA only had to say No to girls high school, and now look at the precedent it is starting for the next few years. It has messed up the integrity of high school soccer. It has placed high school sports as more important than its elite program of 4 practices a week. DA is nothing more than other league like ECNL.
                                Only difference is ECNL is more honest that they are just a league, GDA pretends to be more.

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