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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    BTNT, what is the deal with your tenacity on this? Let's say a small percentage do fib or stretch the truth just a little. Touting one's kids is certainly not an affliction limited to soccer, and yes we all can agree that listening to it can be annoying. That doesn't come close to explaining the extent of your crusade here. Even when there are many posts essentially agreeing with you, you act like you can't read or didn't see just so you can keep on with your mission of disparaging others. So sad and deeply pathetic.
    He will never honestly answer that. I don't think he's able to truly look at his motives honestly.

    I've been following this board off and on for years and am unfortunately far too familiar with the pollution generated by BTNT. What little of value could be gained from this board is overwhelmed by his content, and this particular thread has devolved into one of the worst examples of it.

    This board has always been a waste of time, but now it seems even more so. So I'm done.

    Best of luck to all of your daughters/sons as they continue to play soccer. Hope you and they enjoy the ride!! For anyone out there who is new to following this board, or new to club soccer, focus on what is right for your child and your family. Don't follow this lunatic's statements as any sort of guide for your path.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      BTNT, what is the deal with your tenacity on this? Let's say a small percentage do fib or stretch the truth just a little. Touting one's kids is certainly not an affliction limited to soccer, and yes we all can agree that listening to it can be annoying. That doesn't come close to explaining the extent of your crusade here. Even when there are many posts essentially agreeing with you, you act like you can't read or didn't see just so you can keep on with your mission of disparaging others. So sad and deeply pathetic.
      Flip it around. Why are you so adamant about stretching that truth? What is so wrong with calling out hypocrisy and clarifying the truthfulness of the information that get's presented on this site in threads like this one?

      Take this thread for example. On one hand some on this site want to constantly assert that the numbers of kids getting D1 scholarships is far less than reality and that the money they get is actually far less significant than it actually is and use that to justify why going D3 is really a better option. Even if that were all true (which it isn't) what does that say then about the likelihood of being "recruited" by a D3 and earning one of their very limited "tips"? If it is supposedly so unrealistic to think many kids are able to parlay their ability to play soccer into an opportunity at the D1 level is it more honest to lead others to believe that parlaying it into an opportunity at the D3 level is somehow more of an option? The truth of the matter is that the NESCAC schools only give 1-2 tips to their soccer teams a year and the amount of admissions help that they give is actually quite limited. Why isn't that being stressed instead of feeding a fantasy that there is a NESCAC recruiting timeline?

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        .. and here we go with yet more drivel. Just not true. We are all sure that their parents believe that the could have played D1 but the honest reality is that if they could have, there would have been a significant financial offer. Very few families actually turn down the $75-100K scholarship offers that are par on the men's side (women's are even higher) never mind all of the other benefits that come with it. What these families actually walk away from is a bottom of the roster role that usually carries little if no financial incentives. Of course that is easy to walk away from but let's not then try to say doing so is all about education. It's really about soccer and finding the place where a kid can get out on the field and play it.
        This is one (of the many) places where you are wrong:

        "but the honest reality is that if they could have, there would have been a significant financial offer"

        Particularly on the men's side, there is just not that much money to go around. Not all programs are fully funded. How many guarantees of $100,000 are there really out there for men?

        Further, recruiting is an imperfect art; coaches do not always make perfect evaluations.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          This is one (of the many) places where you are wrong:

          "but the honest reality is that if they could have, there would have been a significant financial offer"

          Particularly on the men's side, there is just not that much money to go around. Not all programs are fully funded. How many guarantees of $100,000 are there really out there for men?

          Further, recruiting is an imperfect art; coaches do not always make perfect evaluations.
          That's bull crap. There are 9.9 scholarships. There is enough money out there to give everyone on a typical 25 man roster a 25% scholarship. The actual problem is the boy's we produce here aren't competitive with the internationals and they lose a good chunk of that money to them. It's a talent issue.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            That's bull crap. There are 9.9 scholarships. There is enough money out there to give everyone on a typical 25 man roster a 25% scholarship. The actual problem is the boy's we produce here aren't competitive with the internationals and they lose a good chunk of that money to them. It's a talent issue.
            What an ignorant fool.

            Many men's programs are not fully funded.

            The available money does not get spread evenly among the recruits. the most important ones, the ones believed to be "impact" players get the bulk of the money. The internationals get the 100% funding.

            Yes, they are good enough to play, maybe even start for a D1 team, but they are not necessarily getting 25k per year.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Flip it around. Why are you so adamant about stretching that truth? What is so wrong with calling out hypocrisy and clarifying the truthfulness of the information that get's presented on this site in threads like this one?

              Take this thread for example. On one hand some on this site want to constantly assert that the numbers of kids getting D1 scholarships is far less than reality and that the money they get is actually far less significant than it actually is and use that to justify why going D3 is really a better option. Even if that were all true (which it isn't) what does that say then about the likelihood of being "recruited" by a D3 and earning one of their very limited "tips"? If it is supposedly so unrealistic to think many kids are able to parlay their ability to play soccer into an opportunity at the D1 level is it more honest to lead others to believe that parlaying it into an opportunity at the D3 level is somehow more of an option? The truth of the matter is that the NESCAC schools only give 1-2 tips to their soccer teams a year and the amount of admissions help that they give is actually quite limited. Why isn't that being stressed instead of feeding a fantasy that there is a NESCAC recruiting timeline?
              I actually don't stretch that truth, and I often counter it. You are avoiding the question posed to you by several posters? Why you, and why you ALL THE TIME? Haven't you made your point(s)? And, btw, no one else is constantly harping on the virtues of D3 or "tips." You remain obsessed about whether a kid "gets something" out of playing soccer beyond the fact that they WANT to play? How is the Tufts or Midd or Haverford or Wooster or Wheaton or William Smith rosters hurting you? As for hypocrisy, you have got to be getting....you are the King there.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                That's bull crap. There are 9.9 scholarships. There is enough money out there to give everyone on a typical 25 man roster a 25% scholarship. The actual problem is the boy's we produce here aren't competitive with the internationals and they lose a good chunk of that money to them. It's a talent issue.
                Do you have any data to indicate that Bucknell, Colgate and Davidson award 9.9 scholarships in men's soccer???

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                  Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
                  This is simply not true. There are players with D1 offers that choose not to go that route. Some players simply don't want to be locked in to the D1 commitment. Last year's NEFC team had a couple such players.

                  You assume that all top club players are interested in going D1 and that simply is not the case.


                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  .. and there we go, suppose no one was making these claims.
                  Let me put a bit more behind my claim...there was a local player that signed an NLI. It was announced by the club and school. She wound up not playing at that school...at all.

                  She was offered $, but chose not to play. Look it up...

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Do you have any data to indicate that Bucknell, Colgate and Davidson award 9.9 scholarships in men's soccer???
                    Do you have any data that says that they don't?

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      I actually don't stretch that truth, and I often counter it. You are avoiding the question posed to you by several posters? Why you, and why you ALL THE TIME? Haven't you made your point(s)? And, btw, no one else is constantly harping on the virtues of D3 or "tips." You remain obsessed about whether a kid "gets something" out of playing soccer beyond the fact that they WANT to play? How is the Tufts or Midd or Haverford or Wooster or Wheaton or William Smith rosters hurting you? As for hypocrisy, you have got to be getting....you are the King there.
                      Lol. If no one is actually getting anything why do we have threads titled "Confused on the NESCAC recruiting timeline?" Doesn't recruiting imply that someone is getting something in exchange for going to the school?

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
                        This is simply not true. There are players with D1 offers that choose not to go that route. Some players simply don't want to be locked in to the D1 commitment. Last year's NEFC team had a couple such players.

                        You assume that all top club players are interested in going D1 and that simply is not the case.



                        Let me put a bit more behind my claim...there was a local player that signed an NLI. It was announced by the club and school. She wound up not playing at that school...at all.

                        She was offered $, but chose not to play. Look it up...
                        Please present the document your daughter signed. Otherwise your information is pretty vague and it is just a likely as the kid signed one of the fake commitment letters.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          What an ignorant fool.

                          Many men's programs are not fully funded.

                          The available money does not get spread evenly among the recruits. the most important ones, the ones believed to be "impact" players get the bulk of the money. The internationals get the 100% funding.

                          Yes, they are good enough to play, maybe even start for a D1 team, but they are not necessarily getting 25k per year.
                          Someone really needs to prove that their kid was good enough. Let's just take Mommy and Daddy's word for it and call it a day.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            It doesn't make sense to YOU. You seriously need psychological help.

                            We did not get involved with club soccer to chase scholarships. Period. Fact. We got involved in club soccer because our D loved to play and wasn't being challenged in our town setting. She played on the top team at a large club for 8 years and loved every minute of it. We would do it all over again, and then some. She had great teammates, but we were also surrounded by some nut-jobs like yourself who were completely focused on chasing the scholarship dream. The show was something to watch, for sure. To each his own. We remain completely delighted with our daughter's focus and choices, and how it all worked out for her. #D3proud

                            I know you will never accept the reality of our position, but I just can't let your arrogant and ignorant statement go unchallenged. You are just dead wrong in our case, and I'm sure I speak for so many. It ain't always all about the money, although clearly there are some who are focusing on the dollar signs when they're making college decisions. I completely understand that for some the focus on scholarship offers is a financial necessity, and congratulate those who are successful in achieving their scholarship goals. But please for the love of God, stop spewing your bull**** statements of "fact" about D3 choices, BTNT. And seriously, go see a professional for some help. Your obsession with this is absolutely pathological. Do you do nothing else?
                            I completely agree. We were surrounded by not job D1 scholarship hunter parents and their kids suffered as a result. It was kinda sad to see actually.

                            What does BTNT stand for?

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              This is one (of the many) places where you are wrong:

                              "but the honest reality is that if they could have, there would have been a significant financial offer"

                              Particularly on the men's side, there is just not that much money to go around. Not all programs are fully funded. How many guarantees of $100,000 are there really out there for men?

                              Further, recruiting is an imperfect art; coaches do not always make perfect evaluations.
                              Ah, here's the rub. Must be the same guy who complained for years that coaches couldn't spot small but technical players. Just another case of cudda, shudda, wouldda.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                I completely agree. We were surrounded by not job D1 scholarship hunter parents and their kids suffered as a result. It was kinda sad to see actually.

                                What does BTNT stand for?
                                Did you now? Please explain how their kids suffered? Is getting part or all of their education paid for considered suffering?

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